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  • Go Packers!
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 578

    Why test fire a rifle without the stock?

    The gunsmiths on the Discovery Channel show "American Guns" often live test fire rifles without the stock. Why? I can grasp the idea that they may have a prototype or are checking to see if their idea on a gun build will even work and they don't want to bother making a stock if the receiver and action will not work. However, I have seen them take the stock off of a few rifles to test fire them, even big bore calibers! Why? Is this just for television purposes or is there an actual reason?
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    Nutso
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 55

    If something goes wrong you don't want to damage an expensive stock or have to spend all the time on making another one.

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    • #3
      Go Packers!
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 578

      Originally posted by Nutso
      If something goes wrong you don't want to damage an expensive stock or have to spend all the time on making another one.
      Interesting. If something did go wrong, wouldn't it be safer to hold onto a stock vs. the receiver alone? I would rather damage an expensive stock than my hand.
      The dirty little secret about freedom is, you're on your own. -Clarence Thomas
      If God didn't want us to eat animals, then why are they made of meat? -Joe Getty, Armstrong & Getty radio show

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      • #4
        Merc1138
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 19742

        Originally posted by Go Packers!
        Interesting. If something did go wrong, wouldn't it be safer to hold onto a stock vs. the receiver alone? I would rather damage an expensive stock than my hand.
        Wait, they were just hanging onto the barreled actions?

        Why do people continue to watch garbage like this...

        It wouldn't be unreasonable to clamp it into a vice or some sort of jig in a vice to hold the action in place and test fire it(it's not exactly difficult to put a couple of holes in a block of wood and bolt it on). I'm sure this is SOP for some shops, but it sounds incredibly dumb.

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        • #5
          repubconserv
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 3056

          It is reality TV, The stupider, more hillbilly redneck you act the higher the ratings.

          Personally I think these shows are bad PR for 2A movement because it shows idiots being idiots. I realize that it is for ratings, and it is "familiarizing" the public with guns, but for the most part (at least in SOG) it is the "special" FFL building and selling the special class 3 weapons to the the special buyer. They should focus more on guns the public can get their grubby hands on to (again, I realize this is for ratings.) otherwise, all it does is let the public know that special people can have special guns

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          • #6
            Go Packers!
            Senior Member
            • May 2009
            • 578

            Originally posted by Merc1138
            Wait, they were just hanging onto the barreled actions?
            Yes.
            The dirty little secret about freedom is, you're on your own. -Clarence Thomas
            If God didn't want us to eat animals, then why are they made of meat? -Joe Getty, Armstrong & Getty radio show

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            • #7
              Josh3239
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2006
              • 9197

              They actually talked about it on the show. It is to keep the stock from breaking if there is a failure.

              Originally posted by Merc1138
              It wouldn't be unreasonable to clamp it into a vice or some sort of jig in a vice to hold the action in place and test fire it(it's not exactly difficult to put a couple of holes in a block of wood and bolt it on). I'm sure this is SOP for some shops, but it sounds incredibly dumb.
              Hows it dumb to hold it by the barreled action? And the point of putting it in a vice would be what?

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              • #8
                dieselpower
                Banned
                • Jan 2009
                • 11471

                Originally posted by Josh3239
                They actually talked about it on the show. It is to keep the stock from breaking if there is a failure.



                Hows it dumb to hold it by the barreled action? And the point of putting it in a vice would be what?
                to hold it? if you are removing the stock for fear of a failure, that same failure has the potential to ruin your arm, hand, face or life. all firearms that could malfunction need to be test fired by locking in a vise. they make protective jaws for this purpose so it doesn't mark up the barrel or receiver.

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                • #9
                  Distro
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 812

                  Originally posted by repubconserv
                  It is reality TV, The stupider, more hillbilly redneck you act the higher the ratings.

                  Personally I think these shows are bad PR for 2A movement because it shows idiots being idiots. I realize that it is for ratings, and it is "familiarizing" the public with guns, but for the most part (at least in SOG) it is the "special" FFL building and selling the special class 3 weapons to the the special buyer. They should focus more on guns the public can get their grubby hands on to (again, I realize this is for ratings.) otherwise, all it does is let the public know that special people can have special guns
                  American Guns focuses mostly on guns that almost anyone can buy, besides one .50 BMG someone went into purchase, every gun is basically classical.

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                  • #10
                    Distro
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 812

                    Originally posted by Merc1138
                    Wait, they were just hanging onto the barreled actions?
                    Originally posted by Go Packers!
                    Yes.
                    I think this is what OP was referring to, they were building a yellowboy with a fancy stock, and decided to test fire it. If they actually fired it who knows, could have easily been just a set up tv shot.




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                    • #11
                      Shellshocker66
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 1760

                      I thought on the yellow boy the main guy got a face full of blown back powder? Maybe that was the episode before...

                      Anyways I thought they explained it pretty well on the tv show prior to doing it, some of those stocks cost a ton of money due to rare woods, and custom work. I just think I would be wearing some kevlar gloves myself.
                      "I declare to you that woman must not depend upon the protection of man, but must be taught to protect herself, and there I take my stand." --Susan B. Anthony



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                      • #12
                        Go Packers!
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 578

                        Originally posted by dieselpower
                        If you are removing the stock for fear of a failure, that same failure has the potential to ruin your arm, hand, face or life.
                        ^ Exactly!

                        I have seen them test fire several firearms in this manner, barreled action only. I must have missed the episode(s) when they explained why they remove the stock.
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                        If God didn't want us to eat animals, then why are they made of meat? -Joe Getty, Armstrong & Getty radio show

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                        • #13
                          21SF
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 3491

                          They said it right in the episode, wow!!!
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                          • #14
                            NytWolf
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 3935

                            Originally posted by repubconserv
                            It is reality TV, The stupider, more hillbilly redneck you act the higher the ratings.

                            Personally I think these shows are bad PR for 2A movement because it shows idiots being idiots. ...
                            It closes the gap between the perceived gun world and the anti world, making them friendlier to one another.

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                            • #15
                              Merc1138
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 19742

                              Originally posted by Josh3239
                              They actually talked about it on the show. It is to keep the stock from breaking if there is a failure.



                              Hows it dumb to hold it by the barreled action? And the point of putting it in a vice would be what?
                              If the stock could break due to a failure, what do you think is going to happen to your hand if it fails?

                              Testing a barreled action before making a custom stock makes perfect sense. However it does not make sense to test with your hand instead of the a stock(or just even a block of wood bolted into place) if you're afraid damage is going to occur due to a failure. It's either tv being dumb, tv for dumb people, or dumb people on tv.

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