How accurate are modern military Assault rifles?

[Soldier415]

Care to share on the terminal effects on them?

No. Other than it did the trick.

[Sturnovik]

The L86 series LSW version of the SA 80 is so accurate it has been withdrawn as the squad auto weapon and made the designtated marksman weapon. It is considered accurate to 600m.

I saw a military video on youtube a long time back and they were saying fantastic things about the accuracy. I read the HK revised ones were outstanding as well. Its the bullpup I would buy if I could have one in its standard form.

[smle-man]

I don't understand why 5.56mm metal penetration is soooo important. How many people get killed because the round penetrated cover and killed them? I bet not many using 5.56, I don't care what they do, it's not going to be the reason threats are stopped, why not focus on terminal ballistics and accuracy? A guy sticking his head out at 300 meters with RPG needs to be hit the first time and stopped. Rounds like M855 and now M855A1 over penetrate and lack stopping power. Hell even the M193 did a better job. I don't get why penetrating metal is so important..Robots?

You'd be surprised what will turn, stop, and deflect a bullet. M855 penetrates better than M80 7.62mm ball at longer ranges. I've seen pictures of steel plates poked all the way through with M855 at 400 yds that were severely dented but not penetrated with M80. The bullet has to get to the bad guy before it can kill him and penetration that turns cover into concelement is important.

[1lostinspace]

You'd be surprised what will turn, stop, and deflect a bullet. M855 penetrates better than M80 7.62mm ball at longer ranges. I've seen pictures of steel plates poked all the way through with M855 at 400 yds that were severely dented but not penetrated with M80. The bullet has to get to the bad guy before it can kill him and penetration that turns cover into concelement is important.

Metal is one thing but center blocks wood and other barriers are far most common.

[smle-man]

Metal is one thing but center blocks wood and other barriers are far most common.

If a projectile will go through metal it will go a proportionate amount of wood or other material.

[1lostinspace]

If a projectile will go through metal it will go a proportionate amount of wood or other material.

Not exactly it's yaw ratio is very high and the jacket will peel and frag.

[Dreaded Claymore]

I think 600 m is overkill for a 5.56 personally. What kind of combat situations are going to require it...not many. Then put a weapon that can inside a compound where the distances are measured in feet and 5.56 is a lot more practical. Those distances ( 600 m +) require a 7.62 or 6.8 6.5 and a different platform hence why they have DMR now.

Fixed.

[smle-man]

Not exactly it's yaw ratio is very high and the jacket will peel and frag.

That seems to be counter to the complaint that M855 is too stable and only puts tiny holes in bad guys.

[orangeusa]

As long as said military assault rifle it isn't a Kalashnikov, it'll be accurate. I kid, partially

AK47's are accurate within 300 yds. After that, the rainbow trajectory really brings it down.

Yeah, my Saiga is more accurate than I am, but when I bought it, I compared the .223 round and 7.62x39 (on ammo manufacturers websites), the AK round drops like a rock after 250+ meters.

Hell, I can't see that far..

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[1lostinspace]

My Siaga .223 hangs with most 16" AR using hand loads it will shot 1.25" at 100 yards 5 rounds not 3

[Cali-Shooter]

Yeah, my Saiga is more accurate than I am, but when I bought it, I compared the .223 round and 7.62x39 (on ammo manufacturers websites), the AK round drops like a rock after 250+ meters.

Hell, I can't see that far..

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Lol yeah, my eyesight isn't so keen either, esp. out that far. I suppose that beyond 250-300 yds, you could shoot the AK-47 at an upward angle like it was an artillery piece or mortar, and 'arc' the rounds onto a target, hahaha!
Extra points if said targets were behind a hill and actually got hit!

[1lostinspace]

Lol yeah, my eyesight isn't so keen either, esp. out that far. I suppose that beyond 250-300 yds, you could shoot the AK-47 at an upward angle like it was an artillery piece or mortar, and 'arc' the rounds onto a target, hahaha!
Extra points if said targets were behind a hill and actually got hit!

I have hit man size targets out to 400 I have 20/10 vision but it's not accurate past that 5.56 I can shoot out to 700+ no problem