Underground storage.

[xrMike]

If you have to burying them to keep them, it is way to late.

Yeah, that would never happen here. Because before the tryanny ever got that oppressive, I would hope the majority of gun-owning free U.S. citizens would be using their firearms ABOVE-ground first.

That IS what our founders intended for us to do with them.

[50BMGBOB]

On the other hand, I think this bit is probably true:

If you think it's time to start burying guns, it's time to dig them up.

If you have to burying them to keep them, it is way to late. You can't dig it up to plink. even hunting or self defense would bring out a lot of attention.

That being said, I am LDS (Mormon) so I try to keep at least a two year supply of ammo on hand. Being that I shoot a lot and work with a lot of new shooters, That equals a lot of ammo. Still, I have never buried ammo but I have stored some for many years with no problems or spiecial issues. I have though seen some powder go bad in loaded ammo and that can cause pressure spikes. Mostly from big temp swings and or from using surplus pulled down powder (old and unknow storage).

[Neptune]

Burying metal bits and pieces won't help much when they show up with a ground penetrating radar unit. Archaeologists and Contractors have been using them for years, and law enforcement units have utilized them to search for soil disturbances, buried materials, and bodies as well. Buried PVC containers wouldn't be too tough to find, unless buried in a really out of the way location or area. Residential backyards wouldn't be the best place to bury items. Even so, I doubt anyone would make much effort to search with metal detectors or radar when the scale of recovery/confiscation is potentially so large in the aggregate.


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[iBkickinit]

One other thought, Pelican 1300's can be had for around 60 bucks. I have one that holds my Glock 30 w/8 mags. I would trust burying it in a heartbeat. Hose it off and it would be good as new-ish (seriously).

[coyotebait]

Hello all,
I am new...please forgive if this has been covered, I did a few searches but can't find anything...

If one were predisposed to hide a weapon or two underground, would a regular surplus .50 cal ammo can with a good seal, be sufficient for a container provided the gun was well cleaned and oiled, the ammo in plastic, and desiccants utilized?

Assuming the owner cannot afford a commercially offered product, any suggestions?

Well, you may be able to use a large freezer bag, put a good amount of gun oil in it with your gun and throw it in the ammo can like that....but I tend to agree with Librarian on this.

[SCZ]

http://www.damprid.com/product/sache...-absorber-fg40 available at your local Bed Bath and Beyond

also noone's mentioned roto cases..

http://www.skbcases.com/industrial/products/prod-list.php?d=c7

[iBkickinit]

Desiccant packs can be reused. Stick them in the oven @ 250 for about 30-45 minutes. you are just heating off the moisture they have absorbed.

Dry Ice is fairly common near me (LA suburbs). Ralphs, Vons, and Walmart all have it in locked freezers in the front of the store. We also have a party/keg supply house that offers it.

[Cali-Shooter]

^ ^ ^ One of my prep friends saves all the desiccant packets he can and puts them with his ammo storage. I would think they would last years before needing to be thrown out, but if you get them from food packages, I would wipe them clean, get rid of any residue that might be on them and make sure they are dry before throwing them in with your ammo.

[Badmusic]

alot of grocery stores near me carry it, as does wal-marts i believe.

Wow. i've never seen it in either. Another thought... If someone were really broke...could they save up the little desiccant paks that come in soooo many products these days and re-use them, or are they a one shot use kind of thing?

[Cali-Shooter]

Instead of buying metal ammo cans, I've gone to 5 gallon home depot paint buckets. They come with a lid that snaps on tight and they are cheap.

If you want to get serious, store items in heat sealed VCI plastic bags inside a paint bucket with desiccants and tape up the lid to give you a secondary seal.

I would guess that could last underground for a few decades unless the pressure gets to it. Maybe you could fill the air space with kitty litter to firm it up.

Above ground you shouldn't need the tape, just keep it dry and out of the sun and it will last a really long time.

That's a nice viable option. And that's loads (pun intended) better and lighter than anything metal to store guns or ammo underground, compared to old ammo cans or anything mil-surp.

I was thinking about something along the lines of this:



...but you would throw your back out lugging something like that across the yard to drop into a burial hole, let alone digging it back up and trying to pull it out.

Excellent suggestion and idea.

[iBkickinit]

alot of grocery stores near me carry it, as does wal-marts i believe.

[Badmusic]

Ok, thanks for the comments. I really like the PVC idea, but where does one get small quantities of dry ice?

[whatpain]

Instead of buying metal ammo cans, I've gone to 5 gallon home depot paint buckets. They come with a lid that snaps on tight and they are cheap.

If you want to get serious, store items in heat sealed VCI plastic bags inside a paint bucket with desiccants and tape up the lid to give you a secondary seal.

I would guess that could last underground for a few decades unless the pressure gets to it. Maybe you could fill the air space with kitty litter to firm it up.

Above ground you shouldn't need the tape, just keep it dry and out of the sun and it will last a really long time.

thats a good idea. the drums wont corrode and the kitty litter will soak up any excess moisture

[wash]

Instead of buying metal ammo cans, I've gone to 5 gallon home depot paint buckets. They come with a lid that snaps on tight and they are cheap.

If you want to get serious, store items in heat sealed VCI plastic bags inside a paint bucket with desiccants and tape up the lid to give you a secondary seal.

I would guess that could last underground for a few decades unless the pressure gets to it. Maybe you could fill the air space with kitty litter to firm it up.

Above ground you shouldn't need the tape, just keep it dry and out of the sun and it will last a really long time.

[bill_k_lopez]

I'll hold on to it for you, let me know when you want to meet at a store to do the dros.