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  • glocklover
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    • Nov 2009
    • 519

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    Last edited by glocklover; 05-01-2014, 8:19 AM.
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    ke6guj
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    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    correct, it doesn't have a PG but the wire stock and easily be considered a thumbhole stock which would be an evil feature. Even the T-stock with the hole in the triangle could possibly be considered a thumbhole stock. I've seen people plug the hole or cover it so as to not chance it being considered a thumbhole.
    Jack



    Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

    No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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    • #3
      glocklover
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 519

      So then what your saying is that it isn't "wise" to have a "wire" stock and that if i want the "triangle" style, to some how block the hole?

      Would I be pushing the limits of the law by just having the wire stock or not filling the hole?
      Last edited by glocklover; 11-12-2011, 2:39 PM.

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        ke6guj
        Moderator
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Nov 2003
        • 23725

        just passing on what I've read and seen others do.
        Jack



        Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

        No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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        • #5
          bplvr
          Senior Member
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jun 2008
          • 3946

          Originally posted by glocklover
          Since the weapon doesn't have "a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon", all I would have be assure of is that:

          -the barrel is 16 inches
          -overall length of 30 inches
          -closed bolt design
          -semi-auto (of course)

          I want to aquire the model with the wire stock style NOT the strut type stock with a hole in the middle of the "triangle" section.

          If choose to change or get both styles.

          Or am I wrong about the definition of "pistol grip" and the design of the stock?

          Insight would be great.
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          Also, would both above stock styles be CA compliant?

          NO. not in a stock configuration.

          STEN 's need to meet 922r also.

          A STEN pistol needs a B/B . and must be set up so as
          to not cause a 'constructive possession' problem.

          All of that is doable .

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          • #6
            wilit
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2005
            • 5211

            Originally posted by ke6guj
            correct, it doesn't have a PG but the wire stock and easily be considered a thumbhole stock which would be an evil feature. Even the T-stock with the hole in the triangle could possibly be considered a thumbhole stock. I've seen people plug the hole or cover it so as to not chance it being considered a thumbhole.
            Many years ago there was an opinion letter from the CA DOJ posted here that said the T-stock left unaltered would be considered a thumbhole stock. I have found the posts with the links to the letters, but the links are long since dead.

            Most people just weld in a washer into the hole to make the diameter of the hole small enough to not be able to fit a thumb into.
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