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  • #16
    Pulsar
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 1048

    Yeah, and look at the 10/22 ejector, it's just apiece of sheet metal stamped into shape. The only time a fixed style really causes a problem is when steel case ammo is used, and a ejector that is properly hardened doesn't even have that as a concern.

    Of course I'm looking at it from the point of view of a smith, a fixed style is easy to work on, but when a plunger style decides to jam in the bolt it usually requires buying a nice carbide drill bit (those plungers are usually harder than hell) and drilling that plunger out. Let me tell you, when that plunger get's drilled enough to let loose it can scare that crap out of you when your running a drill press and your not expecting it.
    "There are over 550,000,000 firearms in worldwide circulation, that's one firearm for every 12 people. The only question is, how do we arm the other 11?" -Lord of War

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    • #17
      ar15barrels
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 56947

      Originally posted by Fjold
      Randall,

      Call or email Lisa or Fred at Sharp Shoooter Supply. They have complete boltheads for sale with no FFL required. I just bought a .473 plunger type head to replace the CRF magnum bolthead on my 11G to switch it from 300WSM to 22.250
      Brownells told me that my FFL could simply CALL them and they would just ship it to me.
      It's like they wanted my FFL to "vouch" for me or something.
      Brownells says this is a Savage policy.

      Midway sells them and they don't make any mention of an FFL requirement either.
      I checked out Remington 700 receivers and they have BIG RED TYPE saying that an FFL is required.
      I wonder if the FFL requirement on Savage's request is dated, but still enforced by Brownells because nobody at Savage ever told Brownells it does not matter anymore...
      Randall Rausch

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      • #18
        NeoWeird
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 3342

        Originally posted by ar15barrels
        Brownells told me that my FFL could simply CALL them and they would just ship it to me.
        It's like they wanted my FFL to "vouch" for me or something.
        Brownells says this is a Savage policy.

        Midway sells them and they don't make any mention of an FFL requirement either.
        I checked out Remington 700 receivers and they have BIG RED TYPE saying that an FFL is required.
        I wonder if the FFL requirement on Savage's request is dated, but still enforced by Brownells because nobody at Savage ever told Brownells it does not matter anymore...
        It might be a safety precaution. You know like "Caution: Hot ****ing coffee in this coffee cup" type of thing. Maybe they figure an FFL would have enough common sense to know that a rifle needed to be headspaced before a new bolt could be put in, but all it would take is some random idiot Joe Public to lose their eye sight and they could be in big trouble.
        quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. - Lucius Annaeus
        a sword never kills anybody; it's a tool in the killer's hand.

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        • #19
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 56947

          Originally posted by NeoWeird
          It might be a safety precaution. You know like "Caution: Hot ****ing coffee in this coffee cup" type of thing. Maybe they figure an FFL would have enough common sense to know that a rifle needed to be headspaced before a new bolt could be put in, but all it would take is some random idiot Joe Public to lose their eye sight and they could be in big trouble.
          I can understand the reasoning.
          Put the part in a plastic bag with a bright pink warning: "This part requires installation by a gunsmith capable of checking and adjusting headspace within acceptable standards."

          What I don't understand is that two seperate vendors selling the identical parts do NOT both follow the same procedure.
          Midway will ship me the part without an FFL being involved in any way.
          Randall Rausch

          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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