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  • Diabolus
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 4721

    30mm A10 Thunderbolt

    I'm looking for one roundto add to my collection. Does anyone know where I can get one complete round?

    I'm really looking for the PGU-15 or PGU-14

    Thanks
  • #2
    Super Spy
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 3461

    Look for an inert round and you will probably have no issues as it won't be made of depleted uranium......or contain anything remotely explosive.
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    • #3
      Diabolus
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 4721

      I've been looking all over. The PGU-15 are training rounds and should be good to go. There are a few old listings on Gun Broker, but nothing new.

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      • #4
        joefreas
        • Jan 2010
        • 2421

        Check this out http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=258378061
        If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

        Originally posted by XDRoX
        Walking around with a banana in a holster won't do anything but get you laughed at.
        "A true patriot would repeal the patriot act"
        Ron Paul

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        • #5
          Diabolus
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2006
          • 4721

          Nice find!!! Kind of expensive, but I guess thats what it is for experimental.

          Thanks for that!

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          • #6
            FLIGHT762
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 3072

            Originally posted by Diabolus
            I've been looking all over. The PGU-15 are training rounds and should be good to go. There are a few old listings on Gun Broker, but nothing new.
            Just an FYI, live fixed ammunition in a caliber greater than .60 is a no go in California:

            CHAPTER 2.5. DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES

            12301. (a) The term "destructive device," as used in this chapter, shall include any of the following weapons:
            (1) Any projectile containing any explosive or incendiary material or any other chemical substance, including, but not limited to, that which is commonly known as tracer or incendiary ammunition, except tracer ammunition manufactured for use in shotguns.
            (2) Any bomb, grenade, explosive missile, or similar device or any launching device therefor.
            (3) Any weapon of a caliber greater than 0.60 caliber which fires fixed ammunition, or any ammunition therefor, other than a shotgun (smooth or rifled bore) conforming to the definition of a "destructive device" found in subsection (b) of Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, shotgun ammunition (single projectile or shot), antique rifle, or an antique cannon. For purposes of this section, the term "antique cannon" means any cannon manufactured before January 1, 1899, which has been rendered incapable of firing or for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade. The term "antique rifle" means a firearm conforming to the definition of an "antique firearm" in Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations.
            (4) Any rocket, rocket-propelled projectile, or similar device of a diameter greater than 0.60 inch, or any launching device therefor, and any rocket, rocket-propelled projectile, or similar device containing any explosive or incendiary material or any other chemical substance, other than the propellant for that device, except those devices as are designed primarily for emergency or distress signaling purposes.
            (5) Any breakable container which contains a flammable liquid with a flashpoint of 150 degrees Fahrenheit or less and has a wick or similar device capable of being ignited, other than a device which is commercially manufactured primarily for the purpose of illumination.
            (6) Any sealed device containing dry ice (CO2) or other chemically reactive substances assembled for the purpose of causing an explosion by a chemical reaction.
            (b) The term "explosive," as used in this chapter, shall mean any explosive defined in Section 12000 of the Health and Safety Code.
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            • #7
              joefreas
              • Jan 2010
              • 2421

              Ouch,
              Looks like you are going to have to limit the live ammo collection to 60cal. I'm assuming a dummy round would not be considered a destructive device?
              If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

              Originally posted by XDRoX
              Walking around with a banana in a holster won't do anything but get you laughed at.
              "A true patriot would repeal the patriot act"
              Ron Paul

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              • #8
                FLIGHT762
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 3072

                Originally posted by joefreas
                Ouch,
                Looks like you are going to have to limit the live ammo collection to 60cal. I'm assuming a dummy round would not be considered a destructive device?
                An inert (no primer, no powder, no HE or other incendiary in the projectile) dummy will probably be okay. The O/P was looking to get the PGU-14 or
                PGU-15 rounds. Those are destructive devices.

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                • #9
                  Diabolus
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 4721

                  WTF! That's total BS.

                  Any idea who I could contact in California (DOJ?) to see if it's legal to bring in a round for collector mil surplus?

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                  • #10
                    dotalchemy
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 958

                    Originally posted by Diabolus
                    WTF! That's total BS.

                    Any idea who I could contact in California (DOJ?) to see if it's legal to bring in a round for collector mil surplus?
                    Regardless of whether you're collecting or not, it's still a destructive device if it's a live round.

                    Just like I can't "collect" live grenades or RPG's.

                    Which is a pitty, as the neighbours arguing is somewhat irritating.
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                    • #11
                      Diabolus
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 4721

                      Originally posted by dotalchemy
                      Regardless of whether you're collecting or not, it's still a destructive device if it's a live round.

                      Just like I can't "collect" live grenades or RPG's.

                      Which is a pitty, as the neighbours arguing is somewhat irritating.
                      I should have clarified, I want to confirm that an inert round is OK.

                      Nothing like catching a felony for something that cant even explode.

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                      • #12
                        paul0660
                        In Memoriam
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 15669

                        Any weapon
                        Sounds like projectiles are ok if not rocket fired?
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                        • #13
                          Briancnelson
                          Senior Member
                          CGN Contributor
                          • May 2011
                          • 802

                          I always find it interesting that I have no concerns about my neighbor owning a heavy weapon, but the government of this state has a lot of concern about it.

                          It tells you a lot about what ruins their sleep at night.
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                          • #14
                            SVT-40
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 12907

                            Buy it here!!





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                            • #15
                              Steve1968LS2
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 9275

                              Originally posted by joefreas
                              Ouch,
                              Looks like you are going to have to limit the live ammo collection to 60cal. I'm assuming a dummy round would not be considered a destructive device?
                              So what about my 5" inert battleship projectile? lol
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