Anti-Gun Mom

[Syst3m Ov3rrid3]

Scenario: My mom is anti-gun. She believes guns are better off banned and nobody should be allowed to have a gun. Probably based off all the new reports she's seen about someone being shot and killed by either gang bangers or police. Or Innocent people being killed. I just received my exposed firearm permit to be an armed guard. Before receiving this permit and doing the training my mom didn't want anything to do with guns in her home or to hear about them. She's just barely gotten okay with the concept of me being an armed guard and possibly owning a gun at home. She's stressed plenty of times that safety is her primary concern. I understand that. She wants me to buy a safe, bolt it to the floor of my closet and make sure the safe has either a finger print lock or numeric keypad. She also wants the gun lock on the gun inside the safe. I told her the finger print safe is over kill. I have no problem buying a combination safe and bolting it to my floor.

Question: How do I get my mom relaxed with the concept of owning a gun. I'd like to take her to a Firing Range and see if she'll fire a gun, but she just doesn't want anything to do with it. So how can I get my mom more involved in guns and at least try to shoot one and get her more open? I'm not trying to get her to totally change her views on guns but not everyone with a gun is out to commit crimes and murder people. I just want her to not be so closed minded on them. Trying to word this as best as possible so you understand what I mean. I am all about safety. I've fired multiple handguns and performed e-checks/safety checks on each gun I've fired to make sure when I'm first handling it I don't shoot myself.

I hope I've explained this clearly and with enough information as I can.

Thanks, Steve

[Maddog5150]

Try to educate her but some people just flat out refuse to be educated. There is an old saying, "A liberal is a Republican who hasnt been mugged yet."
Sad to say but if she doesnt budge but you are old enough to buy firearms you have two choices. Start stamp collecting or move out.
Women are funny though. They will not listen to boyfriends, husbands, sons or dads but if a total stranger tells them the same exact thing, they tend to listen. I used to work for FTA several years ago and we had a womens self defense course. You could try to sign her up for something like that or see if you can get a very pro gun female to just talk to her. Either way, good luck

[Syst3m Ov3rrid3]

Thanks. I don't intend on changing her views on them, just trying to make her more accepting or open to the idea. She can have her views on guns are dangerous. For instance, she was just watching on the news about that Dekraai guy that killed 9 People at a Seal Beach Salon. She said thats why guns need to be banned to prevent things like this from happening. Yeah theres some crazy people out there, but whether guns are banned or not, someone will managed to get a hold of a gun one way or another. It's all in the eye of the gun holder. I'd consider myself a Smart Gun Owner (once I do get my gun). I'm gonna have it locked up and in my closet. It will be unloaded. Once I move into my own place, theres this gun safe I saw at the Ontario Gun Expo. It has a 4 digit combo and a quick release and a separate clip holder.

[CSACANNONEER]

You've preformed e-checks? I really don't think so. e-checks are slang for a very specific reason that an LEO can physically verify if a firearm is loaded. If you are not a LEO, you do not have the authority to preform an e-check.

That said, I'm glad your mom is warming up to the idea that guns are not to blame for anything and that her previous thoughts were just those that were programed into her by the liberal media. Now, find some else, NOT YOU, to take her to the range and let her fire a few different types of firearms. You can be with her but, let someone else instruct her. Most people take instruction better from a non family member and it sounds like you are young and have extremely limited experience with firearms yourself. Why don't you post what part of the state you're in? I'm willing to bet that someone here might be able to take the time to give your mom a lesson or two.

Just ignore all the posts asking if she is single? Is she hot? etc.

[Syst3m Ov3rrid3]

I'm in California. I assumed e-check was a general term for making sure a gun was clear even though I know that LEO's perform P.C. 12031(e) Checks (or at least used to now that AB144 is in effect). I just meant an Empty Check/Safety Check. I'm 24. I have roughly a year in handguns (basic and safety mainly). I've fired Springfield 9mm, Glock 17 9mm, Glock 21 45, S&W 9mm & 45, Springfield XD45. That's pretty much it

[CSACANNONEER]

Yea, a year, even if it's 8 hours a day, is very little firearms experience. California is a big state, I know I looked at your profile before asking for a general location. Did you just add it? Or, am I going crazy? Anyway, if she's up for it, I'm willing to meet the both of you at Angeles sometime and let her shoot a few different types of guns and several examples of each. If you want to take me up on this, talk to her first then, shoot me a PM and we can try to work out a time and day that will fit into all of our scheduals.

[coyotebait]

I'm in California. I assumed e-check was a general term for making sure a gun was clear even though I know that LEO's perform P.C. 12031(e) Checks (or at least used to now that AB144 is in effect). I just meant an Empty Check/Safety Check. I'm 24. I have roughly a year in handguns (basic and safety mainly). I've fired Springfield 9mm, Glock 17 9mm, Glock 21 45, S&W 9mm & 45, Springfield XD45. That's pretty much it

What part of Cali? What city?


Oh, never mind.

[Lone_Gunman]

Um, move out of Mommy's house, and let her be anti-gun. Move into your own house or apartment and be as (legally) pro-gun as you want to be.

[Syst3m Ov3rrid3]

Yes I just updated it along with my age. @Coyote: I'm about 35-40 miles from you.

@Cannoneer: Yes I agree. I never stated that I was an expert. I will definitely have to talk to her to let her know about it, even that she might be very hesitant as she might say "I don't know them, they could be crazy" or something like that. I would like to see her actually just shoot a gun to see what its like. I went to the Ontario Gun Expo last weekend and she made excuses just why she didn't want to go with me. She said $11 was too much and she didn't want to be bored while I looked around.

[Syst3m Ov3rrid3]

@Lone Gunman: Yes I agree I need to move out but I need a job first which ive been looking for. I'm still looking into expanding her mind about guns, regardless whether I continue to live with her or not.

[johnthomas]

Scenario: My mom is anti-gun. She believes guns are better off banned and nobody should be allowed to have a gun. Probably based off all the new reports she's seen about someone being shot and killed by either gang bangers or police. Or Innocent people being killed. I just received my exposed firearm permit to be an armed guard. Before receiving this permit and doing the training my mom didn't want anything to do with guns in her home or to hear about them. She's just barely gotten okay with the concept of me being an armed guard and possibly owning a gun at home. She's stressed plenty of times that safety is her primary concern. I understand that. She wants me to buy a safe, bolt it to the floor of my closet and make sure the safe has either a finger print lock or numeric keypad. She also wants the gun lock on the gun inside the safe. I told her the finger print safe is over kill. I have no problem buying a combination safe and bolting it to my floor.

Question: How do I get my mom relaxed with the concept of owning a gun. I'd like to take her to a Firing Range and see if she'll fire a gun, but she just doesn't want anything to do with it. So how can I get my mom more involved in guns and at least try to shoot one and get her more open? I'm not trying to get her to totally change her views on guns but not everyone with a gun is out to commit crimes and murder people. I just want her to not be so closed minded on them. Trying to word this as best as possible so you understand what I mean. I am all about safety. I've fired multiple handguns and performed e-checks/safety checks on each gun I've fired to make sure when I'm first handling it I don't shoot myself.

I hope I've explained this clearly and with enough information as I can.

Thanks, Steve

In her mind, her baby boy is putting himself in harms way, with the job and the gun. If your job requires a gun, it would make sense to a "Mom" that if it were not dangerous, you wouldn't need a gun. You may want to look up some articles about home invasions, both ones that turned out bad for the home owners and the ones that turned good because of a home defense weapon.

[CSACANNONEER]

I suggested meeting at a very public range for a reason. I could have suggested meeting at my place but, that would have made her nervous since, I live 3 miles behind a locked gate and up dirt roads. Hell, I don't know her either and we all know that all women ARE crazy. Anyway, I could bring a few different .22 handguns and rifles and a shotgun or two for her to try. Or, should we start her out with a 50BMG at 600 yards and a belt fed gun? Then again, I could always start her out with a flintlock.

[bsg]

despite your mom's strong views against gun ownership... she appears to be more flexible than many parents that we read about here on the forum; she's instructing you on what her terms are in her home... regarding you having a gun in that home. she's told you to bolt a safe to the floor in your room, with the gun in safe. correct? it seems to me that you and gun ownership at home are moving right along. don't push the issue on your mom; she's already "budged" substantially on this issue imo. if anything... thank her for her understanding and trust she has in you. i believe this approach, rather than pressure... will keep your home a happy one. let your mom get used to having a gun in the house for awhile before trying to make her feel more "relaxed" about gun ownership.

[Syst3m Ov3rrid3]

I totally respect her in her home and her safety concerns are concerns of mine too. We have two grandkids (not my grandkids lol) that visit and I understand her worries. Thats not that issue, I guess I just want her to be more accepting and I just want her to support my hobbies and the stuff I like to do, Which has always been an issue ever since my parents divorced and my mom is remarried. I totally agree with you bsg, I think once I do own a gun, maybe she might even ask me about my gun and how it works. I'll lax' on any pressure and hope that she opens up and asks me some stuff on guns or would like to participate when I go to the gun range. Since my dad has never been around, theres that void where I would've asked my dad to go shooting with me, you know? Thanks again guys, I appreciate all your feedback (even criticism too).

[MrPlink]

despite your mom's strong views against gun ownership... she appears to be more flexible than many parents that we read about here on the forum; she's instructing you on what her terms are in her home... regarding you having a gun in that home. she's told you to bolt a safe to the floor in your room, with the gun in safe. correct? it seems to me that you and gun ownership at home are moving right along. don't push the issue on your mom; she's already "budged" substantially on this issue imo. if anything... thank her for her understanding and trust she has in you. i believe this approach, rather than pressure... will keep your home a happy one. let your mom get used to having a gun in the house for awhile before trying to make her feel more "relaxed" about gun ownership.

this is the answer right here.

You are better off than most with "anti-moms"

My best friend bought a Mosin and Enfield the minute he turned 18 and had to hide them from his mother until he moved out.