No hollowpoints in war?

[NYY]

Okay i dont know if this could get heated or not... but. Seriously.. why are hollow points not legal to use in war.. ITS WAR! is anyone against this? really. Im puzzled...

[M1A Rifleman]

Against the Geneva Conventions as cruel due to the expanding and maiming nature of the round.

[monk]

I think the reason is because HP's cause more damage. IIRC something to do with a humanitarian factor. Sort of give the other side a chance.

[jbolton]

Yep. Fmj's only. I think its part of the Geneva deal. What's crazy is we can't use hollow points against enemy's of war but police departments are full stocked with hollow points.

[NYY]

Against the Geneva Conventions as cruel due to the expanding and maiming nature of the round.

I think the reason is because HP's cause more damage. IIRC something to do with a humanitarian factor. Sort of give the other side a chance.

yea.. i realize WHY its illegal.. but. seriously? to give the other side a chance?... uhm.. sorry but, what? what happened to FU** the other side and fight with everything youve got? just confused on what the h*ll is goin on. Just heard about that "law" recently.. so they are saying we can drop JDAMs to a certain square FOOT and BLOW UP a building, but HP's are UN-humain? so confused

[Falconis]

Probably threw it in when they outlawed flame throwers, mustard gas, and other chemical/biological weapons. Not that that's stopped anyone.

[llamatrnr]

Yep. Fmj's only. I think its part of the Geneva deal. What's crazy is we can't use hollow points against enemy's of war but police departments are full stocked with hollow points.

...as are Calgunners

[Scratch705]

also i would rather injure an enemy combatant. cause then it takes more men out of battle to care for that 1.

plus, don't most soldiers wear some form of ballistic protection? so hollowpoints would do diddly squat if they got any kevlar or ballistic plates. or if they just hide behind a plywood board or concrete block.

[M1A Rifleman]

Google the subject. What I recall is the purpose was not really to kill the enemy soldier, just get them out of commission. Even better was if two other enemy soldiers were caught up helping one that was wounded, which caused 3 to be out of the fight. Wounding the enemy is more costly to the other side than a kill.

[Josh3239]

Against the Geneva Conventions as cruel due to the expanding and maiming nature of the round.

Geneva Conventions are largely about treatment of prisoners. The Hague Conventions describes the use of bullet that expand or flatten upon impact.

Probably threw it in when they outlawed flame throwers, mustard gas, and other chemical/biological weapons. Not that that's stopped anyone.

Are you sure Flamethrowers are banned from war?

[jpballa]

That's what happens when the U.N. And the world community make laws and rules makes no sense and only helps the bad guys.

[rero360]

Yes, hollow points are banned by the Hague Convention, however OTM (open tip match) rounds are not

77gr. and 175gr. SMKs, in their respective calibers, do wonders

[stormvet]

So we can save some money to buy more cluster bombs and besides do you really need hollow points with your .50 cal.

[NYY]

also i would rather injure an enemy combatant. cause then it takes more men out of battle to care for that 1.

plus, don't most soldiers wear some form of ballistic protection? so hollowpoints would do diddly squat if they got any kevlar or ballistic plates. or if they just hide behind a plywood board or concrete block.

ok so i can agree with that, about it not going through walls/wood and such. but also, "most soldiers", like the enemy we are currently fighting.. dont really have armor on them.. anyways. yes i agree with wounding an enemy and having his men help him.. then again, the enemy we are fighting, dont really fight like we do? so i dont see a haji risking his life to go save another haji..

Google the subject. What I recall is the purpose was not really to kill the enemy soldier, just get them out of commission. Even better was if two other enemy soldiers were caught up helping one that was wounded, which caused 3 to be out of the fight. Wounding the enemy is more costly to the other side than a kill.

okay yeah i can agree with that. but that being the ONLY reason to keep HPs out of war? eh... but i do honestly understand your meaning.

[NYY]

So we can save some money to buy more cluster bombs and besides do you really need hollow points with your .50 cal.

i envy your reasoning. BUT, who says that if HPs were legal, that they are the only types of bullets you can use? mix it up a bit for different uses. i dont know. just thinkin about it all