Ok, so a little context. I used to be a junior high leader in a local youth group (a few years back). I got a reputation for mentoring and sticking up for the "outcast kids" and the "unchurched kids". Oh no, naughty me. Eventually, I made the "mistake" of sticking up for some kids being sexually harassed by a staff member. The church took care of the problem (after 6 weeks of stalling and a well placed comment by me about my mandated reporter status
), but decided FOR COMPLETELY UNRELATED REASONS WE SWEAR to "not ask me back". That sucked...I put 3 years and a TON of my time into that church. But a bunch of the kids my wife and I had been mentoring stuck in touch....and we've been kinda big older brother/sister "mentors" of sorts to them for a while. (The context was necessary. I'm not trying to start church bashing or a debate on church politics. :P)
One of those girls (now 17) asked me to teach her how to shoot. So with parents' permission and waivers in hand, we're hitting Angeles on Sunday. Now she just had a nasty breakup with an ex, he went mega vindictive/verbally abusive, treated her like crap, caused her a lot of pain. We were glad he was gone. She calls me today to let me know she's talking to him again, but told him she won't get involved with him again unless he meets my wife and I and we sorta give the "all clear".
That's when she throws out the idea that hey, he likes guns too, and he (allegedly) owns one, so maybe he can come with us? He'll bring his own gun/buy his own admission and ammo!
My gut is telling me not the right time or place. I don't think he'd flip and do something felony stupid or anything, but I don't like the sound of a potential testosterone pissing match while holding loaded firearms. Also, he's like friggin 16, so I have no clue what she means by "he owns a gun too". I don't know if it's legal, I don't know if his parents bought it for him, I don't know what kind of gun (22? shotgun? EBR? illegal handgun he got from the neighborhood drug dealer?), I don't know if he really has permission, and I don't like the idea of being responsible (whether legally so or not) for two minor "newbies" with guns. That being said....I'm really glad she's trying to use us to help make sure she's making a good decision, and I want us to meet him so I can see for myself what he's like, and hell....maybe knowing she has an "older brother" with guns will keep him in line. (disclaimer: I don't make threats, i don't brandish, I'm a law abiding citizen, I'm not an idiot. I'm not saying I'd do something stupid, but sometimes just knowing she's got someone capable watching out for her can get people to calm the hell down
)
What do you guys think? Great opportunity to make sure he knows he better treat her right? Horrible idea just asking for trouble? Legal morass that'll get me up sh*t creek without the necessary means of propulsion?
Like I said, I'm leaning towards "no". Was wondering if any of you had insight that could help me be more sure about my gut, or change my mind.
), but decided FOR COMPLETELY UNRELATED REASONS WE SWEAR to "not ask me back". That sucked...I put 3 years and a TON of my time into that church. But a bunch of the kids my wife and I had been mentoring stuck in touch....and we've been kinda big older brother/sister "mentors" of sorts to them for a while. (The context was necessary. I'm not trying to start church bashing or a debate on church politics. :P)One of those girls (now 17) asked me to teach her how to shoot. So with parents' permission and waivers in hand, we're hitting Angeles on Sunday. Now she just had a nasty breakup with an ex, he went mega vindictive/verbally abusive, treated her like crap, caused her a lot of pain. We were glad he was gone. She calls me today to let me know she's talking to him again, but told him she won't get involved with him again unless he meets my wife and I and we sorta give the "all clear".
That's when she throws out the idea that hey, he likes guns too, and he (allegedly) owns one, so maybe he can come with us? He'll bring his own gun/buy his own admission and ammo!
My gut is telling me not the right time or place. I don't think he'd flip and do something felony stupid or anything, but I don't like the sound of a potential testosterone pissing match while holding loaded firearms. Also, he's like friggin 16, so I have no clue what she means by "he owns a gun too". I don't know if it's legal, I don't know if his parents bought it for him, I don't know what kind of gun (22? shotgun? EBR? illegal handgun he got from the neighborhood drug dealer?), I don't know if he really has permission, and I don't like the idea of being responsible (whether legally so or not) for two minor "newbies" with guns. That being said....I'm really glad she's trying to use us to help make sure she's making a good decision, and I want us to meet him so I can see for myself what he's like, and hell....maybe knowing she has an "older brother" with guns will keep him in line. (disclaimer: I don't make threats, i don't brandish, I'm a law abiding citizen, I'm not an idiot. I'm not saying I'd do something stupid, but sometimes just knowing she's got someone capable watching out for her can get people to calm the hell down
)What do you guys think? Great opportunity to make sure he knows he better treat her right? Horrible idea just asking for trouble? Legal morass that'll get me up sh*t creek without the necessary means of propulsion?
Like I said, I'm leaning towards "no". Was wondering if any of you had insight that could help me be more sure about my gut, or change my mind.







) and I probably wouldn't want to even meet him.
The grip on the handgun is bad and even dangerous. Never put your support hand thumb like that. There are plenty of stories where the slide rips over the top of the thumb or a broken thumb is the result. BOTH thumbs should be on the same side, palms together with the support fingers wrapped around the fingers of the grip hand.
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