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  • Killer Bee
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 2197

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    Last edited by Killer Bee; 09-28-2011, 2:54 AM.
    I started out with nothing - and I still have most of it
  • #2
    74maduro
    Junior Member
    • May 2009
    • 54



    The above mentioned (underlined and bold) statement seems to nullify the Firearm Ownership Record form. If the sale/transfer must be conducted through an FFL then why/how can anyone ever use this form? But you say you have been using this form, which is great. I want to use this too. So the DoJ didn't require you to have used an FFL? They just accepted this form for your sale/transfer. Am I missing something? Please let me know as I would like to use this form to transfer a pistol from a friend and not have to go through the normal FFL process. Thanks

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    • #3
      Librarian
      Admin and Poltergeist
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 44652

      Volreg is useful for folks who find themselves nervous about a chain of ownership.

      The general run of speculation on Calguns also suggests, without any written advice, that there are a few ambiguous situations, caused by some kind of mistake, that can be 'cured' by filing the volreg form.

      Other than that, the voleg form is not required and does not relieve anyone from the duty of using an FFL for transfers, as you point out in the quote from the NLIP.

      See also http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in..._in_California.
      ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

      Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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      • #4
        Neveronline
        Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 168

        I called the DOJ the other day and they pointed me to that form to complete my transfer. I inherited a few firearms and they said I could just fill out the forms and register them to me that way. If it was a sale or non related/ inherited type of transfer then it would have to be done through a dealer.

        At least thats the way they person I spoke to explained it.

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        • #5
          Librarian
          Admin and Poltergeist
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 44652

          Originally posted by Neveronline
          I called the DOJ the other day and they pointed me to that form to complete my transfer. I inherited a few firearms and they said I could just fill out the forms and register them to me that way. If it was a sale or non related/ inherited type of transfer then it would have to be done through a dealer.

          At least thats the way they person I spoke to explained it.
          Inheritance of handguns - from anyone - is covered by the OPLAW form; I have no idea why they would recommend the VOLREG. Long guns do not (yet) need to be documented on an inheritance or an intrafamilial transfer.

          See the wiki -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...and_Interstate, http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...Family_Members
          ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

          Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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          • #6
            ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Originally posted by Librarian
            Inheritance of handguns - from anyone - is covered by the OPLAW form; I have no idea why they would recommend the VOLREG. Long guns do not (yet) need to be documented on an inheritance ]
            so they can make more money
            $19 per handgun vs. $19 for all of them.
            Jack



            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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            • #7
              Neveronline
              Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 168

              It was because I was looking to sell them. They said to sell them I would have to first register them in my name otherwise I would not have bothered

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              • #8
                Librarian
                Admin and Poltergeist
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2005
                • 44652

                Originally posted by Neveronline
                It was because I was looking to sell them. They said to sell them I would have to first register them in my name otherwise I would not have bothered
                Another win for DOJ!

                No, you do not need to have the guns registered before you can sell them. Lots of CA guns are not registered - perfectly legal.

                See the wiki article -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...s_registration
                ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                • #9
                  Neveronline
                  Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 168

                  Thanks for the info librarian! Can I at least right it off as a donation?

                  Lol!!!

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