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  • Bedpan Bandit
    Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 416

    Valkyrie Arms Making Things Right



    *Update in Post #53. Below is the original post. To date, VA has done all it can to make things right.*

    I get a call from Valkyrie Arms telling me that 3 of the 5 guns(mostly saigas) I'm having them work on are ready. I make the ~1hour drive over to get them. I check them out and all seems well until I get home...

    I start my normal routine of cleaning my guns with Birchwood Casey Gun Scrubber. The first two are completely un-eventful. The last one becomes a disaster...



    I spray it down and the paint starts dripping off like it was nail polish. It looks like someone went to town painting it but it must not have dried much less cured. The painter even painted the rear sight leaf for some reason.

    In any case, I give them a call. The girl on the phone, Lisa, said to bring it back and someone will look at it and take care of it. When I get there I tell them what happened and they tell me:

    "That stuff is like brake cleaner. It looks like the factory paint came off. OUR paint is fine. Look at the back. That's where we paint it. We can't do anything because its the factory finish that's coming off. Our paint doesn't do that."

    I tried to reason that I have used Gun Scrubber on all my guns including several other saigas including the other 2 guns they finished. The guy goes to back to talk to the manager and comes back with an offer:

    "Well, we normally charge $150 to re-finish, but we can do it for you for $100."

    I said I will not pay for something I already paid for. I said maybe the gun wasn't completely de-greased or the paint wasn't fully cured and he said:

    "You might want to reconsider what you said before I get pissed. Mike worked on your gun and Mike is a perfectionist."

    I told him that I'm sure Mike does good work. I'm thoroughly pleased with the other 2 guns but not this one. Whatever happened during the conversion, I didn't do anything I wouldn't normally do to a gun but the finish came off. An Asian guy in the shop comes out and also tells me their finish is fine and the factory finish is at fault. They wouldn't reconsider waiving the cost so I pulled the last 2 guns I was having them work on and left.

    Before I left he did apologize for being short with me. Nonetheless, I must say after all the good comments and hype, I am thoroughly disappointed with Valkyrie Arms. I tried reason and logic to explain the situation but was constantly told I was wrong and it was my fault. Nobody told me the paint would not stand up to regular gun solvents. I never once raised my voice or spoke out of line. I wait several months for a conversion and have to hear "...before I get pissed." WOW.

    In the end, after paying to have the gun converted and painted, I will have to take the gun apart and finish it myself. Never again will I waste my time or money at Valkyrie.

    Calgunners, what do you think? Am I wrong for thinking that I shouldn't have to pay to get the gun finished?
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    Last edited by Bedpan Bandit; 10-12-2011, 6:09 PM.
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  • #2
    DannyInSoCal
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2010
    • 8271

    They should've taken care of it.

    Period.
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    • #3
      MrPlink
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Mar 2010
      • 12532

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      • #4
        Bedpan Bandit
        Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 416

        More pics for your viewing pleasure...
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        • #5
          Bedpan Bandit
          Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 416

          This is factory paint? On the rear sight?
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          • #6
            Rukus
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 2387

            In my uneducated and humble opinion, it looks to me like they are telling the truth. Were the other 2 guns you had done Saiga conversions as well? If so did they receive the same cleaning treatment from you?
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            • #7
              Dhena81
              Veteran Member
              • May 2010
              • 4587

              So you bought the Siagas from them?

              Did they do the finish on the receiver?

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              • #8
                Bedpan Bandit
                Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 416

                Originally posted by Rukus
                In my uneducated and humble opinion, it looks to me like they are telling the truth. Were the other 2 guns you had done Saiga conversions as well? If so did they receive the same cleaning treatment from you?
                Yes. I was completely satisfied with the other 308 conversion. And yes, it got the same Gun Scrubber treatment. If you notice the rag, it is saturated in paint. I have never seen a saiga finish do that. If anything, it would flake off, not drip.
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                • #9
                  Bedpan Bandit
                  Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 416

                  Originally posted by Dhena81
                  So you bought the Siagas from them?

                  Did they do the finish on the receiver?
                  No, I brought the saigas in from home. They state that they only finished the back part of the receiver and that because most of the finish is coming off from the front part of the receiver, that it must be faulty factory paint. I did spray the barrel (factory paint) but the paint did fine. The dust cover is factory painted and not a drop of paint came off after the Gun Scrubber. Do note though, there is paint coming off from the back of the receiver as well, near the safety.
                  Last edited by Bedpan Bandit; 09-17-2011, 1:01 AM.
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                  • #10
                    high_revs
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 7700

                    left them a couple of voice mails to try to get some work done. not 1 single call back. guess they have too many customers that they don't want potential ones.

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                    • #11
                      Bedpan Bandit
                      Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 416

                      Here is a picture of the rear of the receiver that they claim is unaffected because it is finished in their paint

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                      Last edited by Bedpan Bandit; 09-21-2011, 6:54 PM.
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                      • #12
                        hellraiser
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 2347

                        Looks like your bolt carrier and mag lock were affected too. Were they finished by them too? I hate to say it but gun scrubber is known for marring paints. How long did you leave it on for?
                        Last edited by hellraiser; 09-17-2011, 1:21 AM.
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                        • #13
                          richie3888
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 849

                          Wow. VA seems like they have great customer services when your paying for something but when something goes wrong, they don't man up and fix the problem. I think this would be VA biggest problem for future sales.

                          Man up VA
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                          • #14
                            richie3888
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 849

                            Also do you have pictures before the conversion?
                            WTB: Wilson Combat, Les Baer, and TRP with half light rail.

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                            • #15
                              MrPlink
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 12532

                              Originally posted by high_revs
                              left them a couple of voice mails to try to get some work done. not 1 single call back. guess they have too many customers that they don't want potential ones.
                              I make no attempt to hide the fact that I love VA, but I really think they are a bit over run as it were..
                              The California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile

                              disclaimer:
                              everything I post is for arguendo and entertainment purposes only, and should not be construed to be legal advice

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