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  • spencerhut
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2006
    • 1264

    Why the gun is civilization.

    Thought you might find this interesting . . . a really good read. Sorry if it has been posted before.

    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

    In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gangbanger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

    There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

    Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weightlifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

    When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

    Link to the author: http://munchkinwrangler.blogspot.com...ilization.html
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  • #2
    want_ar
    Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 122

    To play devil's advocate



    "Victory creates hatred. Defeat creates suffering. The wise ones desire neither victory nor defeat... Anger creates anger... He who kills will be killed. He who wins will be defeated... Revenge can only be overcome by abandoning revenge... The wise seek neither victory nor defeat."

    "In those who harbor such thoughts as, "He abused me, he struck me, he overcame me, he robbed me," hatred never ceases. In those who do not harbor such thoughts, hatred will cease. Hatred never ceases through hatred in this world; through nonviolence it comes to an end."

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    • #3
      mblat
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 3353

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      The essence of Western civilization is the Magna Carta, not the Magna Mac. The fact that non-Westerners may bite into the later has no implications for their accepting the former.
      S.P. Huntington.



      EDIT 2020: To be fair that seems to apply to many Westerners also.

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      • #4
        yes, it's Dave
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2006
        • 11

        The argument that guns are a primary cause for the decline of the aristocracy does have some merit, I think, although not for the reason you described.
        While training did give the higher classes an edge, their greatest advantage seems to be that they could afford well made, full plate armor. This armor was nearly impervious to the weapons of the time, whether they be swords, pikes, bows, longbows, crossbows, or even early guns.
        It has been said that the reason armor went out of fashion was not that it could not stop bullets, but that it did. As guns became more and more powerful, armor had to be made thicker and thicker, to the point that it became unbearably heavy. This turning point took place around the time of the English Civil War, I believe.
        Once armor was to heavy to be practical it became a fashion item only, for a short time, then disappeared.
        I don't know if I can say this spelled the death of the aristocracy, but it did cause them to get out of the thick of the fighting.

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