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  • jdberger
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Oct 2005
    • 8944

    Building a Better Gun-Buyback

    A common complaint about Gun Buybacks is that it's Kabuki Theater.

    *Criminals can dispose of crime guns without consequences.
    *They have a tendency to attract the elderly and not the criminal.
    *The majority of guns that are turned in aren't "illegal".
    *Potentially valuable guns (historical or other) are often turned in by unwitting owners.
    *Resources could be better used by targeting criminals.

    Well, I think that ATF may have actually figured out a way to run a Gun Buyback that addresses all of those issues.

    According to a story in the Cleveland Plain Dealer, ATF agents started up a shoe and jersey store called Tredz - and made it known that they'd trade merchandise for guns and drugs.

    Agents seized 70 firearms, 1,316 grams of cocaine, 768 grams of crack, 1,099 oxycodone pills, 215 ecstasy pills, 199 vicodin pills, 5 grams of heroin and 36 pills of Aprazolam.

    Federal and Richland County prosecutors indicted 64 people who sold and traded guns and drugs to undercover agents who ran a bogus storefront in Mansfield for more than a year.
    Further, the US Attorney stepped up to prosecute criminals under Federal Law because "federal penalties in those cases are much stiffer".

    Instead of providing a $50 Target Gift card to Grandma for turning in her deceased husband's neglected Purdy shotgun, ATF traded a gangbanger a Raiders jersey for a stolen and most likely illegally carried Glock. And then they arrested him and will most likely send him to prison - killing two birds with one stone. Removing the illegal gun from commerce and removing the bad guy from the streets. And if they're smart, they'll recover the jersey.

    Absolutely brilliant.

    Kudos to ATF.
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    stix213
    AKA: Joe Censored
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Apr 2009
    • 18998

    Hahahaha, for once the ATF didn't screw something up. This must have been a local operation instead of something coming from the top.

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    • #3
      Deadbolt
      CGSSA Associate
      • Dec 2009
      • 6552

      Originally posted by Never a good story
      Monday, after yet another shooting -- this one on the city's near West Side close to Lincoln-West High School -- Jackson released a statement calling on the state legislature to give the city the ability to combat illegal gun activity.
      "I have warned that the availability of guns was a serious issue for any urban center. It's an issue that is playing out in our neighborhoods everyday," Jackson said in the release.
      ruined the story for me. Good on the local ATF office, really funny and intelligent approach. Bad on the mayor. What tools does he want? More gun control? Thats working...
      Just another Boy and His Dog.

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      • #4
        duggan
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 1821

        Originally posted by stix213
        Hahahaha, for once the ATF didn't screw something up. This must have been a local operation instead of something coming from the top.
        A way to get more guns to Mexico without being hassled by law abiding FFL's not wanting to sell to obvious "straw purchasers"? And the cartels can get their dope back too!
        A gun, like any other source of power, is a force for either good or evil, being neither in itself, but dependent upon those who possess it.

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        • #5
          titus75
          Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 396

          Agents seized 70 firearms, 1,316 grams of cocaine, 768 grams of crack, 1,099 oxycodone pills, 215 ecstasy pills, 199 vicodin pills, 5 grams of heroin and 36 pills of Aprazolam

          Hmmmmm, 1,099 oxycodone and 199 vicodin, wonder if somebody got a headache and popped a couple.....
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          • #6
            Fastattack
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 1656

            I'm surprised they didn't instead trade guns for merchandise just so they could see where the guns ended up. Isn't that more like their MO?
            Anyway, I agree with the OP that we could use more of this over the worthless buy-back programs (which the press nauseatingly loves!).

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            • #7
              zod
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2009
              • 8341

              Originally posted by Fastattack
              we could use more of this over the worthless buy-back programs (which the press nauseatingly loves!).
              Yes indeed. At least we take a criminal off the street this way, instead of giving them a gift card to get rid of evidence.
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              • #8
                SanPedroShooter
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2010
                • 9732

                JD, can I quote you for a FB post? Might be to late....

                Out****ingstanding! Federal narcotic and firearm charges.... See you in ten to twenty buddy....

                All they need to do now is start going after "baby momma" straw buyers. Better line up the foster families....
                Last edited by SanPedroShooter; 08-31-2011, 10:24 AM.

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                • #9
                  MikeH1
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 1045

                  buybacks are only there for appearances sake, like gun control laws

                  I can't imagine the police willing to leave shooting and murder cases unsolved by asking no questions when a firearm, that could have been used in a crime, is turned in by an obvious gangsta, it's counterproductive at least, incredibly stupid at most. But that's the "Brass" for ya, more politician than police officer.

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                  • #10
                    sprucansailor
                    Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 121

                    The only good "Gun Buyback Program" is the one where I can pay 50 dollars for a gun and walk!

                    On a more serious note, I wonder about partnering with a local 01FFL. They get to go through the turned in firearms and purchase them for a set percentage of fair market value.
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                    • #11
                      FXR
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 500

                      What kind of gangbanger trades a Glock for a jersey!?
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                      • #12
                        nick
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 19151

                        Originally posted by FXR
                        What kind of gangbanger trades a Glock for a jersey!?
                        The kind that wants a jersey.
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