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  • ts
    Banned
    • Apr 2006
    • 1232

    Truth?

    Truth Video


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    God that commercial really pisses me off, I am going to smoke a cigarette and admire my firearms.
    Last edited by ts; 10-08-2007, 3:34 AM.
  • #2
    Super_tactical
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 798

    I loled.

    I do hate those commercials though.
    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin
    (In honor of Blackwater Ops)

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    • #3
      chiefcrash
      Internet Dictator
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jul 2006
      • 3408

      maybe this could be a good thing, with the right spin control...

      after all, any group who "speaks out" against smoking earns some brownie points from the public nowadays...

      think about it. how much could people really hate the gun community if we do "good" things like anti-smoking ads, breast cancer fundraisers, and such?
      Originally posted by Kestryll
      we can not nor should not dismiss or discount my theory that in the dark of night you molest sea anemones by candlelight.
      Originally posted by TKM
      Show me on this 1st Amendment bobble-head doll where the mods touched you.
      Originally posted by Click Boom
      It is clear from this thread that citadel grad was the gunman, and Oswald his patsy.

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      • #4
        pepsi2451
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2006
        • 1629

        I hate them too.

        Yes we get it smoking is bad for you. Give it a rest.

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        • #5
          CRTguns
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2006
          • 2627

          I think ou may be missing the point. They are not speaking against Guns- they are speaking againt the big company that lies to the public and refuses to accept responsibiity and accountabliity for the dangers of their product- not when it is being misused, but when used as directed.

          They could do the same thing with car makers- pr Fast food (wait they dalready id that)

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          • #6
            psssniper
            CGN Contributor
            • Oct 2005
            • 3060

            "I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness; I love only that which they defend.
            victus exaro somniculosus, somnus exaro ieiunium

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            • #7
              FatKatMatt
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2006
              • 1009

              If you notice a few seconds in the banner on the far wall says, "CLOCK", in the same style GLOCK uses for their banners. Thought that was funny.

              There really are no "light" or "ultralight" bullets, they're all capable of killing you with proper shot placement
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              • #8
                Charliegone
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2005
                • 6104

                I think I'll smoke a Black & Miles.


                I will vote for a donkey-sex maniac if he's pro-gun.
                -BWiese

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                • #9
                  ibanezfoo
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 12068

                  Originally posted by pepsi2451
                  I hate them too.

                  Yes we get it smoking is bad for you. Give it a rest.
                  I hate these videos because I don't need some pseudo intellectual snot nose kids telling me what is good for me. How about they put their efforts into worrying about themselves. I don't smoke and don't care to but these commercials make me want to start.

                  -Bryan
                  vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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                  • #10
                    pepsi2451
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 1629

                    Exactly, I know they are bad for me, if I choose to smoke them its my own business.

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                    • #11
                      RossRinSD
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 2371

                      Guys, these commercials are mostly on MTV, and marketed towards kids and teenagers. And we all know what kinds of decisions we made at that age.

                      Hey, the liberals want to go on a crusade and it isn't about taking guns away, then so be it.

                      I'm not a smoker, but do smoke once in a while. Most long time smokers I know wish they hadn't ever started. Thatz got to mean something.

                      But after viewing the ad, seems like they took some of the evil stigma away from guns.

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                      • #12
                        bruss01
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 5336

                        I like these commercials.

                        They are aimed at folks who are not yet smokers, giving them good reasons not to start. Those of you who are saying "give it a rest, already" Go take a good long look into the angelic face of your 5 year old son/daughter/niece/nephew/grandbaby and see if that doesn't make you reconsider. Do you want them to start? Is that your ambition in life for them? To spend a WHOLE bunch of money over the course of their (shorter) lives, making a bunch of guys rich who do not care that their customers are dying on them?

                        This is INFORMATION, not LEGISLATION. Preventing folks from becomming addicted to toxic, carcinogenic products before they're capable of understanding what they are trading off for whatever it is they get from cigarette smoking is a good investment in the future of our young people.

                        My father smoked all his life. He tried to quit several times. He told me, "Don't ever start, 'cause it's too hard to stop". He died of heart problems at the age of 67 after spending the last decade of his life in declining health. He smoked right up to the day he went into the hospital for that last time.

                        I suppose that was my own real-life version of these ads, and it worked because I have never started and have no ambition to.
                        The one thing worse than defeat is surrender.

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                        • #13
                          chiefcrash
                          Internet Dictator
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 3408

                          i honestly don't really mind the commercials. Like bruss said, this is information not legislation...

                          If some group of people wants to run a campaign to convince me to CHOOSE not to smoke, that's cool as far as i'm concerned. That's the american way...

                          but once they start trying to FORCE me to do something, they can go to hell...





                          of course, here's something just to screw with your head: let's say we manage to get people to stop smoking (either by choice or by force). That means these people are going to live longer, right? So a bunch of people who would have died before being able to claim social security benefits are now going to live long enough to collect them, right? Wouldn't that raise heath care and SS costs for EVERYONE?
                          Originally posted by Kestryll
                          we can not nor should not dismiss or discount my theory that in the dark of night you molest sea anemones by candlelight.
                          Originally posted by TKM
                          Show me on this 1st Amendment bobble-head doll where the mods touched you.
                          Originally posted by Click Boom
                          It is clear from this thread that citadel grad was the gunman, and Oswald his patsy.

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                          • #14
                            ohsmily
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 8957

                            Originally posted by chiefcrash
                            of course, here's something just to screw with your head: let's say we manage to get people to stop smoking (either by choice or by force). That means these people are going to live longer, right? So a bunch of people who would have died before being able to claim social security benefits are now going to live long enough to collect them, right? Wouldn't that raise heath care and SS costs for EVERYONE?
                            No, a tremendous amount of money is spent on attending the effects of smoking. Emphysema, asthma, lung cancer are all possible effects from smoking. The cost of caring for and treating a patient in the hospital suffering from cancer is unbelievable. Health care costs will go down if people didn't smoke as much.

                            However, these commercials bug me...we all know smoking isn't good for you; if ppl still want to smoke, so be it. Stop bugging them about it.
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                            • #15
                              ts
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 1232

                              I have to disagree on numerious levels. Having some nerdy looking dude tell me smoking is going to kill me. If I was 14 I would say, "I sure as hell don't want to be like him - I want non-filters just in case"

                              If they had beautiful models saying "Pretty girls don't like guys who smoke" that would work a lot better.

                              Second they are relating death to death. I am a smoker. It is a dirty habit often looked down upon. I am trying to quit. Now they are relating this dirty habit that is a KNOWN killer to firearms that can be used for many other purposes just then shooting. Notice how at the end of the commercial the guy holding the pistol gripped shotgun with the head shield. That does not look much like a sporting long gun to me.

                              And also notice how the entire commercial was relating cigarettes killing people to guns killing people.

                              Not good PR for us and the "Truth" camping sucks, really bad. SMOKING IS BAD FOR YOU. WE ALL KNOW. NOT A SECRET. IT SAYS IT ON THE SIDE OF MY PACK.

                              The truth is out there.

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