Because shooting twice is silly. (.45 acp)

[EricClay]

45 acp v. .357 mag



.45ACP ... 400-600 ft.lb
.357 Mag .... 570-775 ft.lb

You assume that all the energy is dissipated in the target. Higher velocity rounds tend to pass through targets and take all that extra energy with them. Even expanding rounds.

Personally being shot with either of those rounds would be a really really bad day.

[Cowboy T]

Oh hell, just get both a .357M revolver *AND* a 1911 and go have fun!

[Turo]

Oh hell, just get both a .357M revolver *AND* a 1911 and go have fun!

That sounds like a plan I can work with!


.22 thrown in for fun

[Rude Robert]

Thanks for the videos, where's the one for the 44mag lol? Just kidding. That is why I want the springfield 1911, I already have the other two lol.

[Rude Robert]

Thanks for the videos, where's the one for the 44mag lol? Just kidding. That is why I want the springfield 1911, I already have the other two lol.

Hey, by the way. The 357 was only a 125 gr bullets yikes. See the wound channel that thing made compared to the 45acp. I wonder what bullet wt it was? It looks like it lost most of its stopper power by going clean through the gel. The 357 had a lot bigger impact from what my simple eyes is telling me lol

[rojocorsa]

is the 1911 really that good ?

Dude, you're talking about one of the most fanboyed guns in the world if that tells you anything.

[OHOD]

Oh hell, just get both a .357M revolver *AND* a 1911 and go have fun!

How about 1911 as your primary and a nice .357 mag snubby as a backup.
Sweeeeeeeet.

[Johnnykck]

[trollmode]
A head shot with a .22 is better than a body shot with a .45. That's why the .22 is better.
[/trollmode]

Up where my uncle lives, in the san jose foothills, a guy was shot in the back of his head twice with a .22 caliber pistol, dumped in a ditch and left for dead. He ended up walking a 1/2 mile up the hill to my uncles house. After calling the ambulance and cops it turned out both bullets bounced off of his skull, one got lodged in his neck, but he recovered. That will not happen with a .45.

[Army GI]

Honestly folks, .357 Magnum SUCKS for a primary handgun in my opinion. My ego isn't so big to admit that I would prefer something like a 9mm for a duty sidearm. I own a GP 100 and they ain't no fun to shoot after a few cylinders of full powered magnum loads. WAY too much muzzle blast and recoil.

Sure they're fun at first, but, if anything, people love the practice rounds I load for it utilizing TrailBoss powder which makes it feel like you're shooting a .22.

I'm kind of past the age where I need to have all that obnoxious noise and flash in my guns to feel cool when I shoot

[Paper Boy]

[OHOD]

You assume that all the energy is dissipated in the target. Higher velocity rounds tend to pass through targets and take all that extra energy with them. Even expanding rounds.

Personally being shot with either of those rounds would be a really really bad day.

Heck, even being shot with a 22 is a bad day.

I've taken care of patients with 22 wounds on up to 7.62 wounds.
38 to 45 as well.

Patients that do the worst are the ones that have had a huge shock to their system. Sure, the bullet could go through and through, but the shock wave is going to create a huge amount of damage.

By the way, this thread should be moved to the general gun discussion now.

[theduece]

I'm kind of past the age where I need to have all that obnoxious noise and flash in my guns to feel cool when I shoot

This Happens????????????

[Maddog5150]

It comes from the fact that the SAS used to train with the Hi-Power to double-tap as a matter of course. This was due to their real life experiences that a 9 mm is more effective with two bullets.



And yet the caliber of choice for SOCOM is .45 acp. And it was Delta Force veterans of Mogadishu who insisted on developing a .45 cal AR. I wonder why that is?

my drill sgt wore a green baret and he talked about 45s. Drill Sgt Upson also said he preferred the 9mm ;-)

[Medic451]

[Time of Flight]

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