Difference in firearm transfers-Please explain logically

[warbird]

Can anyone give me a logical reason why a pistol/revolver on the state roster list can be transferred from FFL to FFL for a PPT but a pistol/revolver that is no longer on the roster or never was but is registered with DOJ has to be FTF? Am I missing something here? Just trying to get educated. Thank you.

[paul0660]

Can anyone give me a logical reason why a pistol/revolver on the state roster list can be transferred from FFL to FFL for a PPT but a pistol/revolver that is no longer on the roster or never was but is registered with DOJ has to be FTF? Am I missing something here? Just trying to get educated. Thank you.

You have some of the alphabet soup wrong, because what you describe above is not a PPT. PPT's are in fact what you later call FTF.

As for why? Other than the pols having way to much time on their hands, dunno.

[notme92069]

What does logic have to do with it?

[kazman]

Off-roster must be ppt (except LEO). PPT=face to face. FFL to FFL = Transfer, not PPT (even if you're buying it from a private party).
There's no logical reason why, so don't even try.

[warbird]

Sorry for the alphabet soup screwup but you got the drift. What I was getting at was can't a private party send an off roster gun (but DOJ registered to the selling party) through an FFL to another FFL to make a non-face to face sale just like he would a gun that was on the roster. Both are used guns and an FFL is involved and in this case two of them. It just seems dumb to me.

[zfields]

Because california hates you.

Dont look for justification, it isnt there.

[Librarian]

Sorry for the alphabet soup screwup but you got the drift. What I was getting at was can't a private party send an off roster gun (but DOJ registered to the selling party) through an FFL to another FFL to make a non-face to face sale just like he would a gun that was on the roster. Both are used guns and an FFL is involved and in this case two of them. It just seems dumb to me.

It isn't logical.

But - the difference between the situations is generally who is the seller.

In a PPT, the seller is a private individual, using the services of an FFL because state law says so. PPT sales are exempt from the Roster requirement by Penal Code.

In a non-PPT sale, the seller is the FFL. FFL sales are NOT exempt from the Roster, unless the buyer is exempted by Penal Code.

Oh yes - it's also because California hates you.