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  • #76
    rod
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 2245

    Doesn't matter if the bad guys were armed or not. If you can get a jury to believe that the store owner had a reasonable fear of his life, he was justified in pulling the trigger.

    Sounds like the owner should have followed up with the secon two "S's". He got the first S right. Ok, I'm joking.
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    • #77
      Untamed1972
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Mar 2009
      • 17579

      Originally posted by BC9696
      Bad news today, was told Jason was charged with MURDER because the attempted thieves were unarmed. Possibly an 'inside job" but the info lid is on now. He's out on bail...employees are back to work but the cases are empty and furniture is still outside. New glass and carpeting is in. They are open to purchase/pawn items and take payments only. Sad news.

      One person against multiple "unarmed" suspects can still get you dead. Murder my ***! Thats f'ed up! Hope it works out for him and he's got a good lawyer. Sounds like the DA is just bein' a shicken-chit cuz he doesn't wanna seem un-PC by ruling the shooting of a black man as justified, so he'll run the poor guy thru the wringer and pass the buck to a judge at a pretrial hearing or a jury knowing the guy will get cut loose for lack of evidence. Which in an of itself should be considered false arrest / malicious prosecution.
      Last edited by Untamed1972; 06-30-2011, 9:21 AM.
      "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

      Quote for the day:
      "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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      • #78
        Wicked Pete
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2010
        • 5182

        I read this book, recommend it: On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society. By David Grossman.

        About the shooter: it's brutal for a "civilian" (or anyone) to deal with that point of no return in a crisis situation, to make the decision to pull the trigger. Must be a total panic.

        Then to deal with (shot someone) the regret of taking a life, whether justified or not, you can't help having emotions. I hear guys talking about how "tough" they are - and how they wouldn't hesitate...but it's a pretty bad ordeal that stays with you for a lifetime.

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        • #79
          BC9696
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 2024

          Thanks for the link...weird how this story morphs more and more.
          Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

          The U.S. city with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, Washington, D.C., has the highest murder rate at 24 per 100,000.
          The state with the most unrestrictive gun regulations, Vermont, has the lowest murder rate at 0.48 per 100,000.

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          • #80
            johnny1290
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 1596

            there are links to two different stories here. one is a jewelry store with 2 shot after they tied people up.

            the other is a pharmacy where dude brought a airsoft gun to rob the place again and got deaded.

            the san juan jewelry store sounds like the op'sstory. it also sounds like a very good shoot, although my heart goes out to the families of all involved.

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            • #81
              Brown Rock
              Veteran Member
              • May 2009
              • 4536

              He went Charles Bronson on those fools. Good for him.
              Fernando became an American the courageous way. By outrunning the speed boat.

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              • #82
                thrillhouse700
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 4349

                Any updates?

                Oh and Brown that gif made me cringe!!!!! He slid a good 10 feet on bare skin! HAHAHAHA Ok maybe I laughed
                "I *love* the idea of DOJ buyback money being used to buy guns for kids. " - Steadyrock

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                • #83
                  5thgen4runner
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 3514

                  Originally posted by redcliff
                  "What caused them to believe they should fire?" Doan said. "Was that person in fear of their life or someone else being injured?"

                  Seriously? These people were the victim of an armed robbery and he is questioning that the victims feared for their lives? Also, how about the police officer reads the penal code to learn that even lowly civillians can use deadly force to stop a felony in progress?

                  Excuse me while I pack for Texas.
                  Wait for me I'll pay for gas f@&k I want out !!!!!!

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                  • #84
                    Fishslayer
                    In Memoriam
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 13035

                    OMGUHGTBFKM! Have we found Gecko45?




                    Originally posted by m98
                    Glock47 assault weapon with cop killer boolits
                    Did it have assault clips and a shoulder thing that goes up?
                    Last edited by Fishslayer; 07-01-2011, 2:00 AM.
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                    You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
                    You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


                    Originally Posted by JackRydden224
                    I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
                    Originally posted by redcliff
                    A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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                    • #85
                      Terminator2
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 352

                      Two terminated....hasta la vista, baby
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                      • #86
                        guns4life
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 4916

                        Originally posted by johnny1290
                        there are links to two different stories here. one is a jewelry store with 2 shot after they tied people up.

                        the other is a pharmacy where dude brought a airsoft gun to rob the place again and got deaded.

                        .

                        Fixed it, my bad.
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                        • #87
                          mif_slim
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 10089

                          +10000 for the good guy!
                          Originally posted by Gottmituns
                          It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

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                          • #88
                            thrillhouse700
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 4349

                            Any updates?
                            "I *love* the idea of DOJ buyback money being used to buy guns for kids. " - Steadyrock

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                            • #89
                              joelukehart
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 977

                              +1000 for the good guy. - for 2 dead Obama voters.

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                              • #90
                                jeff762
                                Member
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 282

                                Originally posted by thrillhouse700
                                Any updates?
                                word i got from one of the deputies that was there is, it was considered a justifiable shooting and the owner will not be charged.
                                i'm not a gun nut! i'm a firearms enthusiast!

                                "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." Napoleon Bonaparte

                                "Casualties many; Percentage of dead not known; Combat efficiency; we are winning." (Colonel David M. Shoup, USMC, Tarawa, 21 November 1943.)

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