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  • ghost
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 4626

    Selling Firearms

    I WAS TOLD TODAY AT A LOCAL GUNSHOP THAT IF YOU SELL GUNS(PPT) AND SELL OVER A CERTAIN LIMIT,IN A YEAR THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY TAX,IS THAT TRUE?HE COMPARED IT TO SELLING CARS,NOW I`M CONFUSED.IS THIS A LAW IN CALI
  • #2
    Pthfndr
    In Memoriam
    • Oct 2005
    • 3691

    Are you buying guns and selling everyone of them for a profit?

    If not, you are not "doing business".

    Did they tell you what the limit is?

    No, because they don't know.

    Did they quote the section of the law to you?

    No, because they don't know.

    Don't believe half what most gun shops tell you, and disregard the other half.

    If you want the straight scoop with law and penal code section post your question in the legal forum.
    Rob Thomas - Match Director NCPPRC Tactical Long Range Match

    Match Director Sac Valley Vintage Military Rifle Long Range Match

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    • #3
      ghost
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 4626

      thanks for the response.it kinda spooked me since i`ve sold a few lately.
      Last edited by ghost; 09-11-2007, 11:10 PM.

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      • #4
        Shane916
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2006
        • 5004

        Originally posted by ghost
        thanks for the response.it kinda spooked me since i`ve sold a few lately.
        A few is actually the limit in CA.. couple is ok as well.. once you get to several then it's all over!!

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        • #5
          tenpercentfirearms
          Vendor/Retailer
          • Apr 2005
          • 13007

          Originally posted by ghost
          thanks for the response.it kinda spooked me since i`ve sold a few lately.
          The government knows everything you do so you might as well pay the tax. Unless you conducted all of your transactions wearing one of these.



          For those of you who don't know, this is actually the field my shop is in and I do all of my business with my tin foil helmet on so they don't know what I am really selling. If you look hard you can see my inventory of lowers behind that 4th bush on the left.
          www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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          • #6
            FortCourageArmory
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 1001

            So that's where my helmet went!!!!!
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            Tim & the gang
            Fort Courage Armory
            1518-B Los Angeles Avenue
            Simi Valley, CA 93065
            (805) 526-6563
            www.fortcouragearmory.com

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            • #7
              EOD Guy
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 1229

              Originally posted by ghost
              I WAS TOLD TODAY AT A LOCAL GUNSHOP THAT IF YOU SELL GUNS(PPT) AND SELL OVER A CERTAIN LIMIT,IN A YEAR THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY TAX,IS THAT TRUE?HE COMPARED IT TO SELLING CARS,NOW I`M CONFUSED.IS THIS A LAW IN CALI
              It's not that you have to pay tax but that you are limited as to how many private party transfers or sales you can make in a year without being a licensed dealer.

              For handguns, you may not conduct more than 6 transactions per calendar year. For rifles and shotguns, you may make "infrequent" sales. "Infrequent" is defined as "occasional and without regularity."
              Last edited by EOD Guy; 09-12-2007, 11:53 AM.

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              • #8
                BaronW
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 989

                Originally posted by EOD Guy
                It's not that you have to pay tax but that you are limited as to how many private party transfers or sales you can make in a year without being a licensed dealer.

                For handguns, you may not conduct more than 6 transactions per calendar year. For rifles and shotguns, you may make "infrequent" sales. "Infrequent" is defined as "occasional and without regularity."
                Is that for buying AND selling?
                I am not a lawyer, the above does not constitute legal advice.

                WTB: Savage 99 SN#507612 (buying back grandpa's rifle)

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                • #9
                  EOD Guy
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1229

                  Originally posted by BaronW
                  Is that for buying AND selling?
                  It's just selling.

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                  • #10
                    allenst65
                    Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 343

                    Originally posted by EOD Guy
                    For handguns, you may not conduct more than 6 transactions per calendar year. For rifles and shotguns, you may make "infrequent" sales. "Infrequent" is defined as "occasional and without regularity."
                    I remember reading this, however I will have to research further to see how collection or estate sales are handled.

                    I know a few shops in SoCal have recently taken in large collections from private parties and are selling them as PPTs via the consignment process. Definitely more than 6 per person, so I'm wondering if there's an additional exclusion for these cases.

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                    • #11
                      EOD Guy
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 1229

                      Originally posted by allenst65
                      I remember reading this, however I will have to research further to see how collection or estate sales are handled.

                      I know a few shops in SoCal have recently taken in large collections from private parties and are selling them as PPTs via the consignment process. Definitely more than 6 per person, so I'm wondering if there's an additional exclusion for these cases.
                      Where the law limits handgun sales to 6 transactions per year, it also says that any number of handguns can be sold in one transaction. So, in the case of an estate sale of 1 or 50 handguns to a dealer, it only counts as one transaction.

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