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  • mark77418
    Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 173

    Guns dangerous in the home?

    I brought my son to his doctor today and they have a big sign on the wall saying that guns are dangerous in the home. The sign had a statistic that said for every one time that a gun is used to deter an intruder there are 43 cases where someone, used a gun to commit suicide, or had an accidental shooting in the house, or a gun was used to kill a family member. They even ask if you have guns in the home on a questionaire they ask you to fill out.

    What do you guys think of that statistic? Personaly I think it would be irresponsible for me not to have a firearm to defend my family if there was ever a need.
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    coyotebait
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1319

    Those stats were cooked up by the Brady Campaign. They're total B.S. My Doc does NOT ask if there are guns in my house, if he did, I'd find another Doc, as you should.
    R.I.P. Chris Kyle. 2/2/13

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    • #4
      MrClamperSir
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • Feb 2009
      • 2570

      The stat is full of crud. You'll find the details of that in the link provided above.

      As for the doctor’s office, I'd go somewhere else and I'd also make sure he knew why I was taking my business elsewhere.
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      • #5
        coyotebait
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1319

        Funny, my wife JUST forwarded this e-mail to me.

        Doctors vs. Gun Owners


        Doctors


        (A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is

        700,000.


        (B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians


        per year are


        120,000.


        (C) Accidental deaths per physician

        is


        0.171


        Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of

        Health and Human Services.


        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


        Now think about this:


        Guns


        (A) The number of gun owners in the U.S.


        is


        80,000,000.


        (Yes, that's 80 million)


        (B) The number of accidental gun deaths


        per year, all age groups,


        is


        1,500.


        (C) The number of accidental deaths


        per gun owner


        is


        .0000188


        Statistics courtesy of FBI



        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


        So, statistically, doctors are approximately


        9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.


        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


        Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.'


        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


        FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN,


        BUT


        Almost everyone has at least one doctor.

        This means you are over 9,000 times more likely to be killed by a doctor as by a gun owner!!!


        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


        Please alert your friends


        to this


        alarming threat.


        We must ban doctors


        before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!
        R.I.P. Chris Kyle. 2/2/13

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        • #6
          canative
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 1009

          Guns in the home are dangerous only if you let them be. If you are a responsible gun owner, they should never be a danger in the home. They can be a danger just like any other "tool" in and around your home if you are not careful.

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          • #7
            Curley Red
            Banned
            • May 2011
            • 1737

            Next time ask your doctor how many people die from cars. I don't put to much residence on statistics. No one is alike, we are all different in how we live our daily lives, so you can not put a statistic on what can happen to us. Each incident has to be looked at individually and usually people get hurt due to stupidity.

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            • #8
              12ga9mm38splar15
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 5

              I would ask the doctor do u have a car in ur garage ...they kill ppl too.
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              • #9
                CSACANNONEER
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                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Dec 2006
                • 44094

                First, find a pro 2A doctor. Second, realize that even if those "facts" are correct, they don't take into account that some suicides are probably for the best. I've watched a few close friends and/or family members needlessly suffer in their last few weeks of life. Nor do they take into account that using a firearm to defend one's self against a family member isn't always a bad thing to do. In fact, I wish more battered/abused spouses and children could see past the fact that a family member is/was hurting them and take whatever means required to stop the abuse. That said, I also bet that the Bradys completely made up their stats in the first place.
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                • #10
                  nick
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 19152

                  Originally posted by mark77418
                  I brought my son to his doctor today and they have a big sign on the wall saying that guns are dangerous in the home. The sign had a statistic that said for every one time that a gun is used to deter an intruder there are 43 cases where someone, used a gun to commit suicide, or had an accidental shooting in the house, or a gun was used to kill a family member. They even ask if you have guns in the home on a questionaire they ask you to fill out.

                  What do you guys think of that statistic? Personaly I think it would be irresponsible for me not to have a firearm to defend my family if there was ever a need.
                  This "statistics" comes from the many times debunked Kellerman study. Basically, Mr. Kellerman did a lot of hard tweaking to arrive at it. However, despite having been debunked on multiple occasions, and despite the conclusions of this study making little sense, the antis clutch to it for the lack of anything better. Besides, a good lie shouldn't just die just because it's a lie, right?
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                  • #11
                    Napalm Bulldog
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 4266

                    Originally posted by coyotebait
                    Funny, my wife JUST forwarded this e-mail to me.

                    Doctors vs. Gun Owners


                    Doctors


                    (A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is

                    700,000.


                    (B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians


                    per year are


                    120,000.


                    (C) Accidental deaths per physician

                    is


                    0.171


                    Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of

                    Health and Human Services.


                    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


                    Now think about this:


                    Guns


                    (A) The number of gun owners in the U.S.


                    is


                    80,000,000.


                    (Yes, that's 80 million)


                    (B) The number of accidental gun deaths


                    per year, all age groups,


                    is


                    1,500.


                    (C) The number of accidental deaths


                    per gun owner


                    is


                    .0000188


                    Statistics courtesy of FBI



                    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


                    So, statistically, doctors are approximately


                    9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.


                    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


                    Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.'


                    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


                    FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN,


                    BUT


                    Almost everyone has at least one doctor.

                    This means you are over 9,000 times more likely to be killed by a doctor as by a gun owner!!!


                    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


                    Please alert your friends


                    to this


                    alarming threat.


                    We must ban doctors


                    before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!



                    Pure awesomeness!

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                    • #12
                      nick
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 19152

                      There, for your reading pleasure:

                      GunCite - A web-site dedicated to a comprehensive analysis of gun control and Second Amendment issues; analysis of firearms statistics, research, and gun control policies. This section discusses some of the risk factors of gun ownership.




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                      • #13
                        coyotebait
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1319

                        Originally posted by abulldog4me
                        Pure awesomeness!
                        Yep, the timing couldn't have been better.
                        R.I.P. Chris Kyle. 2/2/13

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                        • #14
                          dieselpower
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 11471

                          cars, car seats, cars in summertime heat, swimming pools, bath tubs, prescription meds, household cleaners, and electrical source account for 1000 times more kid deaths in the US than guns.

                          Your child has a 10X more chance to die in any other way than from a LOADED gun in the home.

                          Your child has a 10,000 times greater chance to die in a car accident then a LOADED gun in the home. Thats correct for every child that dies from gun fire (both accidental and purposeful) 10,000 die in car wrecks.

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                          • #15
                            sanjosebmx
                            Senior Member
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 1065

                            Originally posted by coyotebait
                            Funny, my wife JUST forwarded this e-mail to me.

                            Doctors vs. Gun Owners


                            Doctors


                            (A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is

                            700,000.


                            (B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians


                            per year are


                            120,000.


                            (C) Accidental deaths per physician

                            is


                            0.171


                            Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of

                            Health and Human Services.


                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


                            Now think about this:


                            Guns


                            (A) The number of gun owners in the U.S.


                            is


                            80,000,000.


                            (Yes, that's 80 million)


                            (B) The number of accidental gun deaths


                            per year, all age groups,


                            is


                            1,500.


                            (C) The number of accidental deaths


                            per gun owner


                            is


                            .0000188


                            Statistics courtesy of FBI



                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


                            So, statistically, doctors are approximately


                            9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.


                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


                            Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.'


                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


                            FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN,


                            BUT


                            Almost everyone has at least one doctor.

                            This means you are over 9,000 times more likely to be killed by a doctor as by a gun owner!!!


                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


                            Please alert your friends


                            to this


                            alarming threat.


                            We must ban doctors


                            before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!
                            that's awesome


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