Lubricants/Cleaners

[CHS]

I'm a simple guy. 16 guns, all work great, non have solvents or oils and I can clean them all at my kitchen table and eat a snack with my fingers as I'm cleaning. Can you?

I suppose I could, since I'm also using food grade lubricants. But I don't care, either. I don't generally snack while I'm lubricating or cleaning guns.

Like I said, to me, that's not a selling point. It's a neat factoid that you can eat froglube, but if that's your major marketing point I think your marketing is fundamentally flawed. A firearms lubricant should be marketed based on how well it performs (with numbers and data to back that up), not whether or not you can eat it.

Sometimes faith is better than science.

Is that some kind of joke?

Again, if your marketing falls down to "trust us, have faith, it works" rather than numbers or hard data, your marketing is fundamentally flawed.

This stuff might be the best lubricant on the planet, but so far all the marketing I have seen comes down to this:

• SEALs use it!
• You can eat it!
• Have faith, it works!

[17+1]

Switched over to moly bearing grease a while back. Cheap and works well, use it on anything from the Garand to the Glock. Only need a little bit so the $2.99 tub lasts for years.

Hoppes for general cleaning. Tetragun copper solvent for stubborn jacket fouling.

[MudCamper]

This stuff might be the best lubricant on the planet, but so far all the marketing I have seen comes down to this:

Froglube marketing smacks quite heavily of this:

[dieselpower]

I didn't read the thread. I agree with anyone saying Brakefree CPL is for when you don't have room or time for proper maintenance.

[locosway]

Froglube marketing smacks quite heavily of this:

This was my first reaction too, but after reading a lot of people's reviews on the product I decided to spend the $10 to give it a try. I'm glad I did, and so far I'm really happy with the product.

[utvtactical]

Tough crowd

Just remember, slick marketing is how we ended up with Obama. If you think I am selling snake oil, it's only because you have not tried FrogLube. We all get caught up in marketing hype, that is why celebrities are hired to pitch products. Nikes would cost a lot less without Tiger and Jordon

I did not hire the SEALs, SIG Academy was using other produts and THEY decided to switch to FrogLube. Most of my face to face sales happen right after I eat some FrogLube. This is not hype, this is fact.

I can't produce a whole bunch of data that would cost thousands of dollars to produce, because FrogLube does not have the resources to produce them.

What I can do is take my most expensive gun ($7k) and shoot it in the rain, wipe it down and put it back in the safe without going NUTS about it being wet. I can shoot my AR over a four month period and over 1700 rounds and still not carry that it is not clean...and the CLP is safe enough to eat!

You say a firearms lubricant "should be sold on how well it performs" Try some and see how well it performs. One or 2 things will happen after that,
ONE/ you won't care about the "numbers to back it up" TWO/ you get a refund. You never got a deal like that from Mobil, Hoppes, Break Free, Otis, Mil spec, etc.

We will be at the Father's day Festival in Coronado on Saturday at the Tidelands Park. Look for the ROK Dog Leash Banner on our E-Z Up. We will have individual containers and kits for sale. Cash includes tax and we take credit cards. No gun cleaning demo, because Barbara Box is supposed to be there. Having fun, as always and available at 619-507-4503

[MudCamper]

If you think I am selling snake oil, it's only because you have not tried FrogLube.

I can't keep up with all the threads spamming for this product. I'll just link to my response in one of the other ones.

[HK35]

But I can tell you that FrogLube is made of 22 mid-western plants and the it contains no water, wax or oil.

Sometimes faith is better than science.

@UTV, I don't get it: if FrogLube is made from an amalgamation of 22 PLANTS, how can it then NOT contain any water? Were the plants lyophilized?

Also, since it does not contain any oils, what solvent is it in, in the liquid form? Surely it has to be dissolved in something to make it liquid but it can't be water or oil based since it does not contain water or oil.

I'm not sure faith is good in an engineering application.

[utvtactical]

Lyophilized????????????????????????

No it is not freeze dried. The water has been removed and a natural agent is added to keep the liquid, liquid. No oil or wax either.

Everything about the creation and ingredients is proprietary, there is no patent. The company that makes FrogLube is called Trillium Solutions, they are in Maine. 25 years of experience in 'green' products.

If you go to wwwUTVtactical.com, you can link to all of the information from the USDA and Trillium.

[1911su16b870]

...Sometimes faith is better than science.

O'RLY?

http://www.froglube.com/Pressroom-MSDS.htm

MSDS is a joke

What are the ingredients? Lanolin? Turpines? Science always backs up why something works.

Please don't take offense in my post...I want to try the FL out and the next time I am at one of the distributors, I'll pick up some.

[1911su16b870]

...I have 2 Glock armorers that I have given samples to. One in Salt Lake and the other in the home office. Last weekend, I met a parts sales manage from Colt, who was impressed by my weapons and demonstration.

Maybe I could get on that demo list? I will stop by Rifle Gear with it and share it with Nick and Christian. LMK thanks!

If this is a bio-CLP...there is tremendous value in it. I use Simple Green and MPro 7, but still use Otis and Safariland (Breakfee) CLPs. I like the SLIP2000 EWL, it is expensive, but it works.

[utvtactical]

Lots of solvents

Wow, that is quite a list of solvents. I like to keep it simple. 1975-2010 Hoppes. 2010 and beyond, FrogLube. goodnight

[RJonesUSC]

I can't keep up with all the threads spamming for this product. I'll just link to my response in one of the other ones.

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[bruss01]

FrogLube is made of 22 mid-western plants and the it contains no water, wax or oil.

I'm intrigued by what I have heard about this product and I have placed an order for some of the liquid and some of the paste. This is to be tried on two brand new-never-lubed AR rifles. And maybe some of my handguns.

I'm curious though... one has to wonder, if a liquid does not contain water or an oil, what is the food-safe liquid base? Glycerin?

Re: the advertising... "It ain't bragging if you really done it." - Yogi Berra

I guess we just need to see it done, then we'll know. I'm taking a look for myself.

[locosway]

I'm intrigued by what I have heard about this product and I have placed an order for some of the liquid and some of the paste. This is to be tried on two brand new-never-lubed AR rifles. And maybe some of my handguns.

I'm curious though... one has to wonder, if a liquid does not contain water or an oil, what is the food-safe liquid base? Glycerin?

Plants have their own oils. I'm not sure if they mean it has no mineral or petroleum oils, but still has plant oils.