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  • capitol
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2503

    AR15 pistols & threaded barrels

    From what I understand a typical handgun or pistol sold in California can not have a threaded barrel because that creates an assault weapon?

    When buying or building an AR15 pistol most if not all of them have threaded barrels, right?

    In what way do they differ to make the AR15 pistol an exception?
  • #2
    Us3rName
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 660

    no. they're pinned and welded or one of the other.

    it will have a permanently attached comp/brake

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    • #3
      capitol
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 2503

      No.. the AR's muzzle devices are not pinned

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      • #4
        ke6guj
        Moderator
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Nov 2003
        • 23725

        Originally posted by capitol
        From what I understand a typical handgun or pistol sold in California can not have a threaded barrel because that creates an assault weapon?
        only if it is a semi-automatic pistol with a detachable magazine does it become an AW if it has a threaded barrel. Other than that, threaded barrels are not regulated in CA at all.


        When buying or building an AR15 pistol most if not all of them have threaded barrels, right?
        yes.
        In what way do they differ to make the AR15 pistol an exception?
        CA-legal AR-pistols don't have a detachable magazine, so it doesnt' matter if it has a threaded barrel. Consult the handgun flowchart for more info, http://www.calguns.net/caawid/hgflowchart.pdf


        Originally posted by Us3rName
        no. they're pinned and welded or one of the other.

        it will have a permanently attached comp/brake
        Wrong. A CA-legal AR-pistol does not have to have a permanently attached comp/brake. It is not pinned or welded.
        Jack



        Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

        No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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        • #5
          capitol
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 2503

          only if it is a semi-automatic pistol with a detachable magazine does it become an AW

          Thats it. Thank you..

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          • #6
            G1500
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 1825

            Originally posted by ke6guj
            only if it is a semi-automatic pistol with a detachable magazine does it become an AW if it has a threaded barrel. Other than that, threaded barrels are not regulated in CA at all.


            yes.


            CA-legal AR-pistols don't have a detachable magazine, so it doesnt' matter if it has a threaded barrel. Consult the handgun flowchart for more info, http://www.calguns.net/caawid/hgflowchart.pdf



            Wrong. A CA-legal AR-pistol does not have to have a permanently attached comp/brake. It is not pinned or welded.
            Pretty much sums it up.

            OP, Handgun flowchart is your friend.

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            • #7
              Cokebottle
              Seņor Member
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2009
              • 32373

              Originally posted by Us3rName
              no. they're pinned and welded or one of the other.

              it will have a permanently attached comp/brake
              Negative.

              You are confusing the issue with 14.5" barrels on an AR rifle, which must be pinned for NFA reasons.

              AR pistols ALWAYS require a bullet button, since the magazine attaches outside of the pistol grip.
              The bullet button nullifies the SB23 "evil features", meaning that a threaded barrel, barrel shroud (the shoulder thing that goes up?), and flash hider are all perfectly legal.

              It is impossible to build a "featureless" AR pistol.

              Now, the Uzi and Mac clones, there you have a choice. You can use a bullet button and keep the threaded barrel, or you can go featureless and lose the bullet button, pin the muzzle device, and drop your mags and use high-caps.
              - Rich

              Originally posted by dantodd
              A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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              • #8
                Untamed1972
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Mar 2009
                • 17579

                Originally posted by capitol
                From what I understand a typical handgun or pistol sold in California can not have a threaded barrel because that creates an assault weapon?

                When buying or building an AR15 pistol most if not all of them have threaded barrels, right?

                In what way do they differ to make the AR15 pistol an exception?


                Threaded barrel is not an issue because having a bullet-button/fix mag negates any AW issues.

                AW issues only apply to semi-auto firearms with detachable magazines.
                "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                Quote for the day:
                "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                • #9
                  Cokebottle
                  Seņor Member
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32373

                  Originally posted by Untamed1972
                  Threaded barrel is not an issue because having a bullet-button/fix mag negates any AW issues.
                  Not "any" AW issues.
                  For a rifle, OAL less than 30", and for a rifle or pistol with a fixed magazine over 10 rounds are still AW issues.

                  But yes, the BB negates the SB23 features issues.
                  - Rich

                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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