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  • kodiakoutdoors
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 41

    Gun Registration?

    These may be silly questions, but I'm going to ask them anyway and take my chances.

    When you purchase a handgun, with what agency is it registered with?

    When a long gun is purchased, it is not registered with an agency?

    Won't there be a record of either transaction, handgun or long gun, so that the firearm could be traced back to the purchaser?

    Thanks!
  • #2
    Librarian
    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44646

    Originally posted by kodiakoutdoors
    These may be silly questions, but I'm going to ask them anyway and take my chances.

    When you purchase a handgun, with what agency is it registered with?

    When a long gun is purchased, it is not registered with an agency?

    Won't there be a record of either transaction, handgun or long gun, so that the firearm could be traced back to the purchaser?

    Thanks!
    Long answer here: - http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...s_registration.

    Short answers: California Dept of Justice gets DROS information - they keep handgun info, discard long gun info after the purchaser eligibility check.

    The selling dealer will have copies of the Federal 4473 (yellow form). Those can be physically examined at the dealer by BATFE.
    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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    • #3
      kodiakoutdoors
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 41

      Just the info I was looking for. Thank you!

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      • #4
        Army
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 3915

        There is no mandatory firearm registration. DOJ only has purchase info from the time of the DROS.

        Sell it out of state later....the DOJ will still only have purchase info from the time of the original DROS.
        "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......Cicero

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        • #5
          kodiakoutdoors
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 41

          Thanks!

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          • #6
            360Tactical
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 11

            OK let me rephrase, if a relative in another state passes away and while you are visiting that state for the funeral the spouse asks you to take the firearm because she is not comfortable with it, is there a legal way to bring the weapon into California and properly register it, assuming that is California legal?
            Last edited by 360Tactical; 04-25-2011, 3:46 PM. Reason: Accuracy

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            • #7
              Librarian
              Admin and Poltergeist
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 44646

              Originally posted by 360Tactical
              I bought a Glock 27 out of state, what is the simplest way to register it, on DOJ website there is a form for "New Residence" is there a similar form for my situation that I am just not finding?
              Bunch of missing information here.

              When buying that gun out of state, were you a resident of that state? Because if not, Somebody Erred.

              See the wiki - http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...rms_Interstate

              If it happens to be the case, and of course I can't know whether it is or is not, it might not be the wisest thing to admit to a Federal felony on an open newsgroup read by many LE agency personnel.
              ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

              Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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              • #8
                360Tactical
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 11

                OK let me rephrase, if a relative in another state passes away and while you are visiting that state for the funeral the spouse asks you to take the firearm because she is not comfortable with it, is there a legal way to bring the weapon into California and properly register it, assuming that is California legal?

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                • #9
                  Librarian
                  Admin and Poltergeist
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 44646

                  Originally posted by 360Tactical
                  OK let me rephrase, if a relative in another state passes away and while you are visiting that state for the funeral the spouse asks you to take the firearm because she is not comfortable with it, is there a legal way to bring the weapon into California and properly register it, assuming that is California legal?
                  If you were the beneficiary of the deceased, and that particular weapon were bequeathed to you, as part of the settlement of the estate you could take the weapon with you. Neither Feds nor CA requires an FFL for inheritance, anyone to anyone.

                  However, the timing of this happening 'at the funeral' suggests that the distribution of the estate may have some additional formalities - the time of the funeral might be before the legal requirements of probate might be met in that state. But you would have to check with that state.

                  If, on the other hand, the widow inherited the gun in question, it would be a standard interstate transfer, widow to you, and must go through a CA FFL - you may not take possession and transport the gun into CA.
                  ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                  Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                  • #10
                    SantaCabinetguy
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 15137

                    The proper way to accept non exempt firearms (like CR Rifles), across state lines, must be done through an FFL (in this case licensed to do business in CA). Even in the case of intrafamilial transfers, from out of state, must be done through an FFL.

                    360, in the case you specified, the correct way for you to legally import that weapon from ****** into CA must be through an FFL. So the deceased's spouse would ship to your local ffl here in CA and you would pick it up and go through DROS. Unless you are an exempted person (direct lineage to sender, LEO, etc) a pistol must be on the "safe HG roster". If it's a rifle it must be in a "non-AW" configuration, and obviously no MGs.

                    EDIT: DARN Librarian is so fast! and as he mentioned if the weapon were willed to you that makes things that much easier!
                    Hauoli Makahiki Hou


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                    • #11
                      360Tactical
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 11

                      I have formulated a solution based on your advice.
                      Thank you Gentleman!

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