Concealed or not concealed?

[45DAVID1]

If you wear an in the pants holster with a tucked in shirt and the grip of the pistol is visible would that still be considered a concealed weapon?

The question applies to shooting outdoors without an on the belt holster readily available.

[NSR500]

I think Johnny Law would classify that as concealed.

[707electrician]

I believe that would be exposed

[Quiet]

What I was taught, if any part of the handgun is concealed, then it's considered concealed.
Not sure if they've changed that in last 8 years.

[jptopz]

This would be a poor Concealment with Printing. If you cover something you are attempting to conceal it. Just because you did a bad job does not change the fact. Printing is where you can make out the shape of the gun through your close.

[45DAVID1]

This would be a poor Concealment with Printing. If you cover something you are attempting to conceal it. Just because you did a bad job does not change the fact. Printing is where you can make out the shape of the gun through your close.

The question isn't about trying to conceal. The question was in reference to wearing an in the pants holster with a tucked in shirt and having the gun openly exposed on purpose. The point of it being to carry a loaded gun at a legal to shoot spot ina canyon where anyone who knows where it is at can go.

[dieselpower]

The question isn't about trying to conceal. The question was in reference to wearing an in the pants holster with a tucked in shirt and having the gun openly exposed on purpose. The point of it being to carry a loaded gun at a legal to shoot spot ina canyon where anyone who knows where it is at can go.

and he was correct...

just because you want to say its not attempting to conceal, doesn't mean a DA is going to see it that way.

Its a concealed weapon if any part of the gun is concealed. They use this to stop people from doing what you are saying...conceal 90% of the gun.

The gun maybe in a holster if the holster is exposed.

you need to reasearch laws about concealed weapons when hunting and fishing....which is legal if you have a hunting or fishing license.

you need a fishing license to catch reptiles and a fishing license is cheap...1+1=2 think about it.

[jptopz]

The question isn't about trying to conceal. The question was in reference to wearing an in the pants holster with a tucked in shirt and having the gun openly exposed on purpose. The point of it being to carry a loaded gun at a legal to shoot spot ina canyon where anyone who knows where it is at can go.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. As long as the top half is showing I wouldn't see a problem that.

[707electrician]

Its funny. If you have a ccw and you expose part of your gun its a no no. If you are open carrying and only exposing part of your gun its a no no

[dieselpower]

Its funny. If you have a ccw and you expose part of your gun its a no no. If you are open carrying and only exposing part of your gun its a no no

this is correct.

[locosway]

Partially concealed is concealed, unless you're a CCW holder. And then partially concealed means a police beat down and possibly losing your CCW license.

You'd think they couldn't have it both ways, but they do. I guess it's just the price we pay living in a two tiered society.

[Army]

The law for open carry reads: ...carried in a holster ON the belt.

Not inside the pants.

Concealed.

I don't think California has a flash or printing addition to the CCW rules. I could be wrong.

[Librarian]

The law for open carry reads: ...carried in a holster ON the belt.

Not inside the pants.

Concealed.

I don't think California has a flash or printing addition to the CCW rules. I could be wrong.

That language is an example, not the only possible way to satisfy 'not concealed'. A drop holster on the leg would also be 'not concealed', but the holster would not be on the belt.

For a violation of PC 12025, the CalCrim jury instructions cite this

Substantial Concealment. People v. Wharton (1992) 5 Cal.App.4th 72, 75 People v. Fuentes (1976) 64 Cal.App.3d 953, 955 [134 Cal.Rptr. 885] [same].

[Army]

That language is an example, not the only possible way to satisfy 'not concealed'. A drop holster on the leg would also be 'not concealed', but the holster would not be on the belt.

For a violation of PC 12025, the CalCrim jury instructions cite this

I understand that it is only an example, but it points out that openly carried guns are ON, not INSIDE where it would be considered concealed.

[Big Ben]

Gene Hoffman has a pretty good post addressing whether "partially concealed" is considered concealed. Long story short, I think you would be considered concealed.

Go hear for long story. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=325003