What's the difference between Gun Registration and Firearm Ownership Record?

[ro442173]

Although California has no gun registration requirement, there is a form of record keeping called a Firearm Ownership Record which you can submit to DOJ.

I was just wondering: what's the difference between the two. Also, what does actual registration even look like?

[Librarian]

Although California has no gun registration requirement, there is a form of record keeping called a Firearm Ownership Record which you can submit to DOJ.

I was just wondering: what's the difference between the two. Also, what does actual registration even look like?

You probably won't see anything like 'registration' unless you own a registered 'assault weapon'.

There's no other 'official' document. DROS submits the information electronically; you can have a copy of what is submitted, but the info is just a database entry.

The FOR you mention is something you fill out and submit; you'll get back a printed list of what the DOJ database has associated with your name - which, by repute, is often both incomplete and inaccurate.

[Spyder]

Is the FOR the printout you can get from DOJ to write your own things on, for YOUR records?

I have a form I got from DOJ (can't remember what it is called), that I listed my guns with caliber/serial number on them and keep in a safe place at home, in case any of them ever get stolen. DOJ doesn't have the information, it was just a form that they had that I used for my own records.

[Librarian]

The Firearm Ownership Record (FOR) is actually the VOLREG, Voluntary Registration form; don't know why I didn't remember that last night.

DOJ's 'tell me what you think I own' report is the Automated Firearms System (AFS) Records Request Form

The DOJ forms page is here.

[ro442173]

Thanks Librarian.

[distshooter]

What's the difference between Gun Registration and Firearm Ownership Record?

Let me see...
They are spelled differently?

distshooter

[Spyder]

My firearm ownership record is not accessible to anyone but ME.

I just use it as a simple already-made form to keep track of MY guns. I never turned it in to anyone, except for one of my highly fire-resistant and hard to break in to hidey holes.

[ro442173]

^That's cool.

I just asked because I was explaining to someone that California does not have a registration requirement but that DOJ has a record of the firearms you own. While saying that, I thought to myself, that's can't be right.

[Spyder]

Nah, they don't have a record of long guns at all, unless you vol-reg'd. Handguns bought in the last 20 years SHOULD be registered during the DROS in the state system, but clerical errors happen.

[dieselpower]

a gun registration is available to LEO as a link on your name. Any contact they have with you they know the second they enter any info about you... ID, DL, SSN, Full name, or address. Any of those and all your firearms pop up.

[ro442173]

^Well that's the thing guys. California has no registration requirement(except for AW's). But then again, DOJ does have a record of the guns you own. How is that not registration?

Check this out (scroll down to 26)... http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs.php#24

[dieselpower]

and thats where I disagree with the masses. I don't consider a list maintained by the Government as registration.

I don't expect the government to NOT know who has a gun. I would assume all persons have gun and then if needed and under controls investigate a specific person when the situation is warranted. That isn't Registration to me.

Registration is when any a LEO runs my plate and up pops a symbol on his screen. He clicks on it and sees "Gun Owner-- {Ruger 10/22, .22cal, Ser#125377-- Glock M17, 9mm, Ser#NOA123-- Savage, 311a 12ga, Ser#98654 Stag, Stag15, .223, Ser# 232445-- NFE. } NFE= No Further Entries and any other firearms on them, with them or owned are illegal. This is registration.

[ro442173]

Thanks. Maybe my idea of REGISTRATION is just way off.

[dieselpower]

Thanks. Maybe my idea of REGISTRATION is just way off.

no...mine is. Many don't agree with me. On a side note I also believe the gov should know who has guns and maintain a list of gun sales I see nothing wrong with that...and I also believe convicted felons should be allowed firearms. All person have a right to self defense. If they cant be trusted with a gun in public...they shouldn't be in public.


FTR I do not believe in registration

[ro442173]

I'm confused. So are you saying that what we have currently is not registration (the law agrees with you BTW) but that many do consider it registration?