H&K submachine briefcase

[NorCalHal]

Finally embeded ; )

[andrewj]

Interesting. Looks hard to aim

So is it just an MP5K in a briefcase or is there more to it?

[NorCalHal]

just an MP5K in a briefcase

This.

[andrewj]

This.

I see, I just found this

[Quiet]

It's why CA outlaws "camouflaging firearm containers".


Penal Code 12020
(a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
(1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, or possesses any cane gun or wallet gun, any undetectable firearm, any firearm which is not immediately recognizable as a firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any ammunition which contains or consists of any flechette dart, any bullet containing or carrying an explosive agent, any ballistic knife, any multiburst trigger activator, any nunchaku, any short-barreled shotgun, any short-barreled rifle, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken, any unconventional pistol, any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy, sandclub, sap, or sandbag.
(c)(9) As used in this section, a "camouflaging firearm container" means a container which meets all of the following criteria:
(A) It is designed and intended to enclose a firearm.
(B) It is designed and intended to allow the firing of the enclosed firearm by external controls while the firearm is in the container.
(C) It is not readily recognizable as containing a firearm.
"Camouflaging firearm container" does not include any camouflaging covering used while engaged in lawful hunting or while going to or returning from a lawful hunting expedition.

[Wondering Nomad]

I'm pretty sure there's one of those in The Replacement Killers.

[ojisan]

I believe the case alone is an AOW under Fed law.
Not something to make in your garage when you are bored some day.

[B Strong]

I believe the case alone is an AOW under Fed law.
Not something to make in your garage when you are bored some day.

Correct.

In the old days, briefcases for the MAC series were OTC for quite a while before ATF took interest in the subject.

[NorCalHal]

Not something to make in your garage when you are bored some day.

Although it should be obvious, that's probably a good point to make.

[donsnnk]

wow that looks fun

[BitterOldMan]

Note that he fired the weapon with the briefcase in front of his chest and using both arms. If he fired the weapon holding the briefcase down with just one arm, the second shot would hit him in the back of the leg. It is difficult to hit anything more than ten feet away. The briefcase uses a claw mount to hold the MP5K.

[savasyn]

Looks like it's a b***h to reload quickly!

[ke6guj]

I believe the case alone is an AOW under Fed law.
Not something to make in your garage when you are bored some day.

nope, the case itself is not an AOW. The firearm being placed inside the briefcase becomes the AOW, and the firearm is registered as an AOW. But if you put an MG into the case, the MG doesn't become an AOW and no additional registration is needed. Unfortunately, since the case is not considered and AOW, I don't think we can use the AOW exemption to legally possess those cases in CA.

[Burbur]

It's why CA outlaws "camouflaging firearm containers".

So, why does CA outlaw this? The PC is the What, but why?

Although it should be obvious, that's probably a good point to make.

Again, why should this be obvious? Many Calgunners take knowledge for granted, Joe Sixpack would never imagine <insert any CA gun law> exists. I can't count the number of people who have unwittingly: manufactured an illegal weapon/magazine, didn't register their AW, brought a restricted weapon into CA when they moved here, all because the laws here (and now) lack common sense.

[Turbinator]

(c)(9) As used in this section, a "camouflaging firearm container" means a container which meets all of the following criteria:
(A) It is designed and intended to enclose a firearm.
(B) It is designed and intended to allow the firing of the enclosed firearm by external controls while the firearm is in the container.
(C) It is not readily recognizable as containing a firearm.
"Camouflaging firearm container" does not include any camouflaging covering used while engaged in lawful hunting or while going to or returning from a lawful hunting expedition.

Interesting - the law says that all of these criteria must be met.

So - if you made a case that was designed to enclose a firearm; and had an external control to allow the discharge of said firearm;

BUT - you marked the case with big white letters that said "GUN" or an outline of a gun on the outside, I wonder if that would help you fail subclause "C" in the above - and therefore make it legal?

Turby