Slide locked open UOC

[Which Way Out]

Myself I don't think I will be doing any UOC anytime soon do to my inexperience, but I am learning what to do and better yet what not to do thanks to Caluns and everyone here.
I do wonder if having the slide locked open on a pistol and holstered would have any bearing on anything. I guess not but would like to read what comments get posted.
Thanks Bill

[Librarian]

It'll let dirt into your chamber.

Other than that, unloaded is unloaded - won't make any legal difference. Cops will still have the right to make the 12031(e) check.

[Merc1138]

It'll let dirt into your chamber.

Other than that, unloaded is unloaded - won't make any legal difference. Cops will still have the right to make the 12031(e) check.

Yeah, but don't you end up with crap in the open mag well that'll work it's way around into various parts of your gun anyway?

[Toyman321]

Yeah, but don't you end up with crap in the open mag well that'll work it's way around into various parts of your gun anyway?

Carry an empty mag in the well?

[choprzrul]

Given the following parameters: no mag in magwell, slide locked back, and using a competition holster where you can see almost the entire hadgun displayed. As an example, picture this on your hip:



Scenario: you are UOC and an officer walks up to you for an (e) check.

Question: Anyone can plainly see that the gun is completely unloaded just from a passing glance. So at that point, how could a LEO lawfully detain you and remove the gun from its holster for inspection?

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[Which Way Out]

Given the following parameters: no mag in magwell, slide locked back, and using a competition holster where you can see almost the entire hadgun displayed. As an example, picture this on your hip:



Scenario: you are UOC and an officer walks up to you for an (e) check.

Question: Anyone can plainly see that the gun is completely unloaded just from a passing glance. So at that point, how could a LEO lawfully detain you and remove the gun from its holster for inspection?

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Good point.

[Merc1138]

Carry an empty mag in the well?

This is just a guess, but the point of the OP seemed to involve making it easier to get a round chambered in the event he needs to use his weapon while UOC'ng(personally I think unloaded firearms are useless, but that's a debate for a different thread). Now having to drop am empty magazine would just further add to the list of crap to do if you ever needed to use the thing.

[G60]

Question: Anyone can plainly see that the gun is completely unloaded just from a passing glance. So at that point, how could a LEO lawfully detain you and remove the gun from its holster for inspection?

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is the check visual only? or can they manually check?

They can just say they need to manually check the chamber is empty as well.
since a round can be in the chamber even though there is no magazine present and the slide is locked back.

[choprzrul]

If the officer is in a position to remove the gun from the holster, he is also in a position to look at the chamber and top of the empty magwell if the slide is locked back.

Still see no reason to remove the gun from the holster other than to harass.

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[CitaDeL]

Given the following parameters: no mag in magwell, slide locked back, and using a competition holster where you can see almost the entire hadgun displayed. As an example, picture this on your hip:

Scenario: you are UOC and an officer walks up to you for an (e) check.

Question: Anyone can plainly see that the gun is completely unloaded just from a passing glance. So at that point, how could a LEO lawfully detain you and remove the gun from its holster for inspection?

That in no way will ensure that your 4th amendment rights will not be trampled. This statement is based upon experience. Some officers will justify their decision to detain you to investigate whether you are a felon and run the gun anyway.

[nicki]

Open Slide.

If you are doing open carry, I suggest you do drills, get yourself some dummy rounds so you can practice your draw both with a slide back and a a slide forward.

When your life is in danger, you have to be on offense with 3 seconds because if you aren't, then your life is a the mercy of your attacker.

Of course if you carry with slide open, your drills could cross train you so that when we you carry LOADED, you will have reload drills down.

Nicki

[FNH5-7]

Open carry with a slide locked open would look very strange.

[Army]

Open carry with a slide locked open would look very strange.

Not to mention the rear edge would be digging into your side all day, and catching on clothing.

Carry with slide forward, safety on, and empty mag in well. If the Police detain you, they will remove it from the holster anyway.

My last E-check was with a Hogue Speed holster, which leaves the gun fully exposed. Other than a quick giggle while the cop had a tough time getting it out, the cops did indeed remove it.