Shipping a lower receiver with UPS???

[thrillhouse700]

I'm shipping a lower back to the manufacturer for a repair.

Most of my questions already answered through searching and posting on another thread. But I was reading through UPS website and from what I am reading there are a lot of requirements for shipping firearms.

Does a lower receiver with only a trigger constitute a "firearm" or a "Part"

If its just a part I can slap it in a box and send it on its way.

Anyone that has done this let me know.

[Divernhunter]

Safe yourself a bunch of trouble and just box it up and send it USPS Priorty Mail. I have shipped to and recieved back rifles and disassembled pistols this way.

[asme]

I've shipped a few lowers UPS ground before. I'm pretty sure they didn't know or care that they were lowers. You're just fine, toss it in a box and hope nobody steals it when it's going through San Pablo.

[Purple K]

A lower with trigger is just parts.

[railroader]

I just shipped my lower with trigger group and grip installed to be worked on. I used the post office priority mail. Told them what it was. No problem. Mark

[maurice05]

I shipped my g3 parts kit with reciever to a smith last month via usps with no issues but he shipped it back with ups, funny the driver knew what was in the box

[thrillhouse700]

So USPS is safer you guys think? Now I'm getting worried it might get stolen.

[Ron-Solo]

A totally stripped lower receiver is considered a firearm under Federal law. If you call it parts and it gets stolen, be prepared to explain why you didn't declare it properly. Federal law requires you to declare it is a firearm. If it is stolen and you didn't declare it, any insurance claim will be denied. It's not a handgun, so the additional shipping restrictions do not apply, so why play silly word games. The general public can ship longguns (and receivers) via USPS, UPS, and FedEx, so no worries there.

[thrillhouse700]

A totally stripped lower receiver is considered a firearm under Federal law. If you call it parts and it gets stolen, be prepared to explain why you didn't declare it properly. Federal law requires you to declare it is a firearm. If it is stolen and you didn't declare it, any insurance claim will be denied. It's not a handgun, so the additional shipping restrictions do not apply, so why play silly word games. The general public can ship longguns (and receivers) via USPS, UPS, and FedEx, so no worries there.

Thx Ron, I figured that was the case since it is the part that needs to be DROS'ed. I am going to just USPS it with insurance.

[ke6guj]

A totally stripped lower receiver is considered a firearm under Federal law. If you call it parts and it gets stolen, be prepared to explain why you didn't declare it properly. Federal law requires you to declare it is a firearm.

incorrect, federal law does not require you to declare that you are shipping a firearm to an FFL.

The ATF FAQ is misleading on thise.

If it is stolen and you didn't declare it, any insurance claim will be denied. It's not a handgun, so the additional shipping restrictions do not apply, so why play silly word games. The general public can ship longguns (and receivers) via USPS, UPS, and FedEx, so no worries there.

true, if you don't declare it, you might be violating the shipper's policies, but it is not a crime to fail to declare it when you are shipping to an FFL.

[Ron-Solo]

incorrect, federal law does not require you to declare that you are shipping a firearm to an FFL.

The ATF FAQ is misleading on thise.

Unless this info is incorrect, I respectfully have to disagree with you. From the ATF website:

May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?

A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922(a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31]

So, if you are not a licensee (an FFL-holder), you can send a handgun via common carrier, not the U.S. mail, and the recipient must be an FFL holder. If you are an FFL-holder, you can, with the filing of a Form 1508 ("Statement

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Unless this info is incorrect, I respectfully have to disagree with you.

Yes, that info is incorrect. The ATF FAQ page is a kind of "CliffsNotes" version of the law. In trying to condense the law into easy to understand FAQ answers, they sometimes give answers that are more restrictive than the actual law.

The section of the Gun Control Act that requires you to notify the carrier when you are shipping a firearm says that shipments within a State and shipments to an FFL are exempt from this notification requirement. Here's the actual text of the Section 922(e) that is referenced in your quote...

in interstate or foreign commerce, to persons other than licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, or licensed collectors, any package or other container in which there is any firearm or ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or ammunition is being transported or shipped; except that any passenger who owns or legally possesses a firearm or ammunition being transported aboard any common or contract carrier for movement with the passenger in interstate or foreign commerce may deliver said firearm or ammunition into the custody of the pilot, captain, conductor or operator of such common or contract carrier for the duration of the trip without violating any of the provisions of this chapter. No common or contract carrier shall require or cause any label, tag, or other written notice to be placed on the outside of any package, luggage, or other container that such package, luggage, or other container contains a firearm.

[ke6guj]

here's an ATF letter that explains it:

[Ghostrider Recon.]

Ok, sorry for the thread jack but along the same lines; can i ship a lower reciever that i already own from my home of residence in CA to where im Stationed in Gerogia?

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Ok, sorry for the thread jack but along the same lines; can i ship a lower reciever that i already own from my home of residence in CA to where im Stationed in Gerogia?

Yes, you can ship a firearm that you already own to yourself in another State. The package should be addressed to you. If you are shipping it to a place where you won't be when it arrives but other people will be there to sign for it then write on the package something like "TO BE OPENED BY GHOSTRIDER RECON ONLY." If you are shipping it to a military base in Georgia then you will need to check if there are any restrictions because of that.