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  • #31
    postal
    Banned
    • Mar 2008
    • 4566

    Like others said, it would depend on *WHY* the LEO was there.

    Here's one to think about though.....

    If I was a potential witness of a crime. They *want* to talk to me. I *dont* have to talk to them.

    I *could* tell them to take off the bat belt (except radio) and the ankle piece and put them away if they want to come in.

    They would then decide they want to talk to me at the door, which I could refuse.

    Technically, you could *make* them play your game if they want to talk to you bad enough.

    Good idea? probably not....

    Someone here has the sig line about not testifying as a witness unless they give you a CCW.

    There's wiggle room depending on *why* the LEO are there.

    Aside from that....

    The posts about racism against LE is fubar. Especially here in Cali.

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    • #32
      zenmastar
      Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 151

      Originally posted by haole_50
      Do I, as a property owner have the legal right to deny a LEO from entering my resident with his weapon? Since this is my property, I can make my "laws" to protect my rights and family. Otherwise, I greet LEO at the door and go outside, even if they ask to come in. (This is just a question that I've been wanting to ask). New to the board, long-time gun owner, and am really enjoying all the information on-board.
      Simple answer is of course you do without a warrant. They need your permission and any stipulations to enter your property without one.

      With a warrant? They get to make the rules, shoot your dog, accidentally knock down the door of your neighbor, etc.

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      • #33
        todd2968
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 1674

        If you are throwing a drinking party and inviting some LEO's I'd say sure (off duty)
        If there on official business, if you want their help because someone stole your stuff, it's a lot to ask.
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        • #34
          stix213
          AKA: Joe Censored
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Apr 2009
          • 19002

          Originally posted by SVT-40
          "Sorry sir, but the area around me is a idiot free zone. So I'll be on my way. Oh yeah, to bad about your stereo being stolen."
          lol, thats a good one

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          • #35
            stix213
            AKA: Joe Censored
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Apr 2009
            • 19002

            Originally posted by Cpl. Haas
            Oh, you think that's bad?

            Small SF East Bay suburb ~ 2003: dispatch gets a 911 hang-up from a residence and send an officer to check it out. The uniformed officer (who was black) knocks on the front door, sees the window curtain move slightly, but nobody answers. Moments later, dispatch gets another 911 call from the resident... this time she stays on the line and tells the dispatcher that there is "a black man impersonating a police officer trying to break into my house". The officer just cleared the call as unfounded and left.
            OMG, its hard living in the bay area to believe this level of racism even exists anymore.

            People of any race can be a no good murderous thug. There's black thugs, punk white thugs, hispanic thugs.... If someone dresses and acts like one, then I got no problem with you treating them like one. Doesn't matter what race they are.

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            • #36
              Uhhlexxxis
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 564

              LOL @ this post... I've gone in many homes and no one has ever asked me to leave my duty weapon in the car. If anything, they have questions about it.
              Internetz are serious business.

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              • #37
                Ron-Solo
                In Memoriam
                • Jan 2009
                • 8581

                Originally posted by Dreaded Claymore
                Are you freaking kidding me? Where was this, Alabama? Did they answer the door wearing a Klan robe?

                By the gods, this is far and away the most outrageous story I've ever heard of people being rude to the cops.
                Nope, an area of Diamond Bar known as "The Country" but no Klan robes.
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                • #38
                  SVT-40
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 12907

                  Originally posted by pacifico23
                  Lol let's say your a cop and some guy told you that. What would you do? I'm sure you'll be totally kewl with givin up your sidearm....
                  Here's waht I would say:


                  Sure I'll leave my gun in my police car.... But, if I do I'll have to also leave my pants in the car too......So it's your call. Me with all my stuff or me sans gun and pants.....

                  I always found a good sense of humor was the best medicine when dealing with foolishness or stupid questions.
                  Poke'm with a stick!


                  Originally posted by fiddletown
                  What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                  • #39
                    planedude86
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 95

                    Originally posted by marc4
                    I used to work at a Psych Hospital (locked facility) and when a LEO wanted to come in to speak to a patient, no guns allowed past the receptionist lobby.
                    I just don't recall what they did with it.
                    Locked psychiatric units and custody facilities usually have lockboxes for firearms at the entrance. Before entering the unit or facility secured areas, LEO secure their firearms in these boxes.

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                    • #40
                      Maddog5150
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 10526

                      Ah... I hate these threads more than the cop bashing one. I used to think about applying for law enforcement then calgunners ruined it. I can deal with dumbasses and thugs or paperwork, but wannabe badass keyboard commandos being total douchebags to me just because its within thier right and think they are leading some crusade because they never really added anything to society aside from stocking up on food and magpul gear for SHTF would just give me aneurysm.
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                      • #41
                        locosway
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 11346

                        Originally posted by Maddog5150
                        Ah... I hate these threads more than the cop bashing one. I used to think about applying for law enforcement then calgunners ruined it. I can deal with dumbasses and thugs or paperwork, but wannabe badass keyboard commandos being total douchebags to me just because its within thier right and think they are leading some crusade because they never really added anything to society aside from stocking up on food and magpul gear for SHTF would just give me aneurysm.
                        That's probably the best reason I've ever heard for not becoming a LEO.
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                        • #42
                          RollingCode3
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 3221

                          Originally posted by Maddog5150
                          Ah... I hate these threads more than the cop bashing one. I used to think about applying for law enforcement then calgunners ruined it. I can deal with dumbasses and thugs or paperwork, but wannabe badass keyboard commandos being total douchebags to me just because its within thier right and think they are leading some crusade because they never really added anything to society aside from stocking up on food and magpul gear for SHTF would just give me aneurysm.
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                          • #43
                            Maddog5150
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 10526

                            Totally, its my aneurysm. Those things fricken hurt!
                            Buy my EO Tech XPS3-0!!!

                            For those nutjobs who like to use the word "gouge"
                            Note: I did not write the above article.

                            Any carpenters in Socal want a side project?

                            sigpic

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                            • #44
                              1911su16b870
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 7654

                              Originally posted by locosway
                              Same reason I can't walk into the police station with a gun on my hip..
                              yes I take it you are joking...but with the recent Detroit and LA PDs being attacked, this would not be a kumbaya experience.
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                              • #45
                                1911su16b870
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                                • Dec 2006
                                • 7654

                                Originally posted by Maddog5150
                                ... I can deal with dumbasses and thugs or paperwork, but wannabe badass keyboard commandos being total douchebags to me just because its within thier right and think they are leading some crusade because they never really added anything to society aside from stocking up on food and magpul gear for SHTF would just give me aneurysm.
                                Sig line material right there!
                                "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

                                NRA Endowment Life Member, CRPA Life Member
                                GLOCK (Gen 1-5, G42/43), Colt AR15/M16/M4, Sig P320, Sig P365, Beretta 90 series, Remington 870, HK UMP Factory Armorer
                                Remington Nylon, 1911, HK, Ruger, Hudson H9 Armorer, just for fun!
                                I instruct it if you shoot it.

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