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  • thomye
    Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 338

    To Build a Better Mousetrap?

    I've now seen several posts of people trying to make the Bullet Button and Prince 50 better. Let me rephrase. They try and make them more convenient by creating methods of making them almost non existant.

    Is it really that inconvenient? I love that the BB and Prince50 addressed the legality issue which has allowed me to own an AR and XCR but is swapping mags really quickly something people want or need.

    I understand it from a "freedom" point of view but want to understand how many of you want it from a functionality point of view. Do you do tactical drills or want to become the fastest mag swapper in the world?

    Why do you want to build a better mousetrap?

    Me personally, I don't care. the BB is all I need.
    Last edited by thomye; 07-26-2007, 12:48 PM.
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    trfcrugby
    Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 350

    I have to agree. I think if we are somehow able to get the BB recognized, or at least tolerated, the last thing we need are people trying to push the envelope even further.

    Just my opinion.
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    • #3
      psriley
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2007
      • 548

      I'm a new convert to the BB, previously just top-loaded. Is the BB functionally necessary for the range shooting I do? Nope. I can crack the gun open and reload it in about the same amount of time it takes to reload a 7-shot revolver (okay, maybe a 10-shot).

      Does the BB make the shooting more enjoyable? Absolutely. Being new to long guns, I simply didn't realize what I was missing. I'm about to unf**k the sealed magwell bushmaster I bought before I knew about OLLs and put a BB on it too. Just as soon as I can locate the thread where someone explained how to do it, that is.

      That said, I think actual functionality is distantly peripheral to the real issue. My opinion is that this is one of those unreasonable envelopes that needs to be pushed. If someone more adept at mechanical engineering (or lobbying or litigating) than I comes up with a way legally to restore even more of what the CA state legislature has taken away, I will be among the first to lend my support.

      The other day I caught myself being grateful for the fact that I can own and shoot an AR-type rifle at all. More and more, though, I think that this may be misguided thinking.

      The architects of our nation intended that citizens of this country should be able to arm themselves and apparently didn't feel the need to put technical stipulations on that freedom. They must have assumed that, among the constructive citizenry, such stipulations were unnecessary and ineffective.

      Which leads me back to the bullet button. I think it's a great device and I resent like hell having to use it...but I will.


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      • #4
        rod
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2006
        • 2245

        If no one wanted to build a better mouse trap, we wouldn't have the bullet button or prince 50 or the U-15 stock. There's no pushing of the envelope that I can see. Everything we have available to us is CA legal.
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        • #5
          Fate
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2006
          • 9545

          Originally posted by trfcrugby
          ...the last thing we need are people trying to push the envelope even further.
          What are you, a sheep? Pushing back to the letter of the law is the only way progress will be made. Otherwise we're backpedalling 24/7 under an avalanche of additional gun regulations.
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          , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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          • #6
            trfcrugby
            Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 350

            I'm not a sheep, but I think deliberately defeating the BB with magnetic buttons and such is ignorant. Come up with a better solution, great. Make the BB illegal? Not so great.

            The BB pushes the law to it's legal limit. Now we need to force law changes.
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            • #7
              Bishop
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2006
              • 917

              Originally posted by thomye
              Why do you want to build a better mousetrap?
              Say that question out loud and think about it.

              Why not ask why people keep inventing things or trying to make things more efficient, or faster, or cheaper?
              Originally posted by Jagger
              The words "right" and "people" are ambiguous, dude. Furthermore, the ambiguity was probably intentional.
              This is really all the antis have? I suppose they expected the second amendment to list full names and social security numbers!

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              • #8
                C.G.
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2005
                • 8216

                Originally posted by thomye

                Why do you want to build a better mousetrap?

                Me personally, I don't care. the BB is all I need.
                If people didn't want to build a better mousetrap, you wouldn't have your BB now.
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                • #9
                  Satex
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 3501

                  Originally posted by thomye
                  Why do you want to build a better mousetrap?
                  Humanity is where its at because people wanted to build better moustraps. Why would you ever want to build a personal computer? Who needs it? How stupid of an idea is it to create a spreadsheet program called Lotus 123?

                  Invention is a darwinistic process, the good ideas survive, the bad ones disappear. So have a go at it and have fun building a new mousetrap - who knows, you may just have the next big hit!

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                  • #10
                    socalguns
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1707

                    cheap and/or popular and/or well marketed ideas survive
                    "Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you."

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