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  • captn-tin
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 817

    chris mathews-semi-automatic

    while watching chris mathews (I believe in know your enemy) yesterday i heard him say that gadhafi was bringing in "outside help" to squash the protesters,saying that they were using "semi-automatic ak-47s". he said this 2 or 3 times. does anyone think these terrorists would use semis when full autos are so easily available in that part of the world? very sneaky chris.
  • #2
    yellowfin
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2007
    • 8371

    He probably has no knowledge of what he's talking about, so he just follows the template of using every possible adjective for any kind of gun as being something especially bad.
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    • #3
      FS00008
      Senior Member
      • May 2008
      • 1975

      I'm wondering why they'd stick to AKs when they can just as easily get RPKs, Tanks, and DShKs
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      • #4
        Glock22Fan
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2006
        • 5752

        But, but, but, they are semi-automatic.

        VPC
        What's So Bad About Semiautomatic Assault Weapons?

        Assault weapons did not "just happen." They were developed to meet specific combat needs. All assault weapons—military and civilian alike—incorporate specific features that were designed to provide a specific military combat function. That military function is laying down a high volume of fire over a wide killing zone, also known as "hosing down" an area. Civilian assault weapons keep the specific design features that make this deadly spray-firing easy. These features also distinguish assault weapons from traditional sporting firearms.
        and here

        3. Civilian assault weapons are not machine guns. They are semiautomatic weapons. (Since 1986 federal law has banned the sale to civilians of new machine guns.) The trigger of a semiautomatic weapon must be pulled separately for each round fired. It is a mistake to call civilian assault weapons "automatic weapons" or "machine guns."
        4. However, this is a distinction without a difference in terms of killing power. Civilian semiautomatic assault weapons incorporate all of the functional design features that make assault weapons so deadly. They are arguably more deadly than military versions, because most experts agree that semiautomatic fire is more accurate—and thus more lethal—than automatic fire.
        I am always wondering why, if semi-automatic weapons are indeed "more deadly than military versions, because most experts agree that semiautomatic fire is more accurate—and thus more lethal—than automatic fire," then why does the military not abandon those inaccurate, less deadly F/A versions.
        Last edited by Glock22Fan; 02-23-2011, 9:19 AM.
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        • #5
          Full Clip
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2006
          • 10263

          Originally posted by Glock22Fan
          I am always wondering why, if semi-automatic weapons are indeed "then why does the military not abandon those inaccurate, less deadly F/A versions.
          Yes, very curious.
          And we mere civillians should be forced to take these much less accurate fully automatic weapons...

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          • #6
            formula502
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 85

            He seemed to say automatic at first, then catch himself and change it to semi-automatic which was repeated several times.

            My gut take on it was that he knew exactly what he was saying and was trying to build/reinforce the image that semi-automatic is plenty evil.

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            • #7
              model63
              • Aug 2010
              • 310

              ehh...I saw that interview as well... I think he was trying to error on the side of semi-auto versus full auto as he has seen the wrath of folks like us reminding those in the media that there is a difference when it comes to what is legal in this country when others do run off at the mouth freely about automatics showing up in Mexico from the US etc, despite this being in Libya.. On a related note, I thought he did a fair job moderating between the State Senator from Texas vs. the Virginia college shooting survivor that is a Brady mouthpiece with CCW on college campus debates. I thought he let the Senator get all the facts on the table and our side ended up looking pretty good. Whether that was his intent or not I don't know...Matthews is progressive on many of things no doubt, but he is from Pennsylvania nonetheless and isn't no California liberal. He plays devils advocate on somethings and knows that his audience is mostly urban/liberal but consistently on these issues he keep the door open for libertarian perspectives and writes off differences between us cultural based on where you grew up and your life experiences, and at some level I can respect that...Now for that O'Donnell guy... I think he is worse than that Olbermann... at least Olbermann was funny sometimes....my $0.02
              Last edited by model63; 02-23-2011, 9:44 AM. Reason: spelling
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              • #8
                Bhobbs
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2009
                • 11850

                Originally posted by Glock22Fan
                But, but, but, they are semi-automatic.

                VPC


                and here



                I am always wondering why, if semi-automatic weapons are indeed "more deadly than military versions, because most experts agree that semiautomatic fire is more accurate—and thus more lethal—than automatic fire," then why does the military not abandon those inaccurate, less deadly F/A versions.
                First they say they are dangerous because they can spray down an area. Then they say they are dangerous because they are semi auto only and are more accurate than F/A M16s.

                They are complete morons.

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                • #9
                  Baconator
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                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 9547

                  Aside from bolt action, aren't all guns "semi-auto?" You pull the trigger, a bullet comes out, you let go, another one cycles in, you pull the trigger.

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                  • #10
                    GOEX FFF
                    ☆ North Texas ☆
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 7165

                    I think it's obvious what he and the rest of the anti gun libs are trying to do, that is peen "Semi-Automatic" with relation to what the extremist (falsely) use, trying to instill in people's minds through media propaganda that "Semi-Automatic" is an evil word that only a terrorists would use. So when anything as "semi-automatic" is talked about, their minds go haywire and that could only mean one thing.....a tool for terrorism.

                    Wasn't it also Chris Matthews who said OB would be making a speech about gun-control in "2 weeks"? Well its been almost a month to the day since he said that.
                    These guys are full of hot air propaganda.

                    In the 80's, If you were an anti-gun, your favorite word and phrase to use was "UZI" and that "Uzi's were illegal" Even though they weren't and are not.
                    Today, the buzz word of the anti's day is "semi-automatic" and "AK-47".

                    My prediction for year, 2069 is that there will be outcry's that people should be restricted to use Phased Plasma rifles reduced from the standard 40 watt range to 10 watts only.
                    Last edited by GOEX FFF; 02-23-2011, 10:02 AM.
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                    • #11
                      dantodd
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 9360

                      Originally posted by pappabacon
                      Aside from bolt action, aren't all guns "semi-auto?" You pull the trigger, a bullet comes out, you let go, another one cycles in, you pull the trigger.
                      Lever action, pump action, etc.
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                      • #12
                        Baconator
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                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 9547

                        Originally posted by dantodd
                        Lever action, pump action, etc.
                        Ah, forgot about those. Thanks

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                        • #13
                          CalBear
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 4279

                          I've noticed this disturbing trend as well. Their "phrases of evil" have progressed over time. First it was "machine guns." Then it was "assault weapons." Now it's "semi-automatic." Seriously. This is f***ing absurd. They haven't the slightest clue about weapon design, and they just throw these terms around in an attempt to group AK-47s and Glock 19s into the same category of weapon. What a joke.

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                          • #14
                            Baconator
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                            • Jan 2009
                            • 9547

                            I don't know why that term scares people so much "semi-automatic," I guess all they hear is "automatic weapon."

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                            • #15
                              Wherryj
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 11085

                              Originally posted by pappabacon
                              Aside from bolt action, aren't all guns "semi-auto?" You pull the trigger, a bullet comes out, you let go, another one cycles in, you pull the trigger.
                              I know that my Colt Python does that. I pull the trigger, the gun fires, the cylinder revolves and is ready for the next trigger pull. Pulling the trigger once more fires another round. Semi-auto?
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