Evil items ?

[Librarian]

All of the above tuned to the ARs

Oh, an actual question.

Then, 'evil features' are the ones specified in Penal Code for 'assault weapons' via SB23:

12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon"
shall also mean any of the following:
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle
that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine
and any one of the following:

(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.

(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine
with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

(3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length
of less than 30 inches.

(4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a
detachable magazine and any one of the following:

(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor,
forward handgrip, or silencer.
(B) A second handgrip.
(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely
encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon
without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the
barrel.
(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location
outside of the pistol grip.

(5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the
capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:

(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.

(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a
detachable magazine.

(8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

(b) "Assault weapon" does not include any antique firearm.

Typically, the 'evil features' are (1)(A-F).

Note this is different from the expired Federal 'assault weapon' law, that required TWO evil features and included a bayonet lug as one of those.

See also http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...lt_Weapon_Laws

[appagohm]

Just go featureless with a push buttom removable mag

[hellraiser]

I see shot shells but im still lookin for the shotgun!

[repubconserv]

I see shot shells but im still lookin for the shotgun!

It's an assault weapon...don't you know that it can take more than one type of bullet? That is why it's so dangerous!

[Which Way Out]

Just go featureless with a push buttom removable mag

Well this answer begs the question of, What then is Featureless

[repubconserv]

Im going to assume you are talking about a rifle right?

Featureless=

1. pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously/ no thumbhole stock (your thumb cant wrap around the grip UNDER the stock)
2.No folding/ telescoping stock (if you do have one pin it so it can not be adjusted)
3. no grenade/ flare launcher
4. no flash suppressor
5. no forward pistol grip



^ featureless rifle. though with featureless you CAN have rails, scopes, lights lasers

(1-5 do not apply to bolt action/ manual action rifles to my knowledge, only to semi auto)

[Which Way Out]

Im going to assume you are talking about a rifle right?

Featureless=

1. pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously/ no thumbhole stock (your thumb cant wrap around the grip UNDER the stock)
2.No folding/ telescoping stock (if you do have one pin it so it can not be adjusted)
3. no grenade/ flare launcher
4. no flash suppressor
5. no forward pistol grip



^ featureless rifle. though with featureless you CAN have rails, scopes, lights lasers

(1-5 do not apply to bolt action/ manual action rifles to my knowledge, only to semi auto)

Ok but how is it that you see ARs being sold. For instance M & P 15s by Smith and Wesson. Turners has them all the time for sale even this week

[Librarian]

Ok but how is it that you see ARs being sold. For instance M & P 15s by Smith and Wesson. Turners has them all the time for sale even this week

Usually, those are equipped with a 'magazine lock' such as a 'bullet button'.

Remember the 12276.1 code I posted?

12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon"
shall also mean any of the following:
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle
that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine

A magazine lock modifies the rifle so it CAN NOT "accept a detachable magazine" - where "detachable magazine" does not mean 'a magazine can be removed', but rather follows California Code of Regulations 5469

(a) "detachable magazine" means
any ammunition feeding device
that can be removed readily from the firearm
with neither

disassembly of the firearm action

nor

use of a tool being required.

A bullet or ammunition cartridge is considered a tool.

"bullet button" type magazine locks require using a tool to activate the mag release.

This is an FAQ; it's helpful if you ask the question you really want answered the first pass - gets to the answers faster!

[repubconserv]

k but how is it that you see ARs being sold. For instance M & P 15s by Smith and Wesson. Turners has them all the time for sale even this week

If they are being sold to CA and they have the "evil features" they need to have a mag lock, which the seller will probably install. bullet button is the mag lock that makes them CA legal if they do indeed have the evil features Bullet button in action on AR

[Which Way Out]

Thanks guys. I get it now. The bullet button is what makes it legal even with the pistol grip, and adjustable stock etc.

[Cyc Wid It]

There's a sticky that shows on every page called the OLL AW guide. It explains it in condensed form.

[IncVoid]

What is the thing on the back? looks like a bipod on the back.

[coyotebait]

What is the thing on the back? looks like a bipod on the back.

That's the shoulder thing that goes up. Somebody's GOT to have the video...please post it.

[coyotebait]

What is the thing on the back? looks like a bipod on the back.

Found it, let's see if I can post it now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospNRk2uM3U

[Which Way Out]

Found it, let's see if I can post it now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospNRk2uM3U

The you tube video was just what you would expect, can you believe these people.
The problem is you tube can lead you to lots more so I checked some of the others. Never thought it was so rampant.
Cal Guns will be getting a check from me each time I hit the range. My price of admission to keep these loon's away is cheap.
Tnx to everyone that has helped me with all my questions.