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  • tmuller
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 1839

    CA gun show rules

    I have only been to AZ and NV shows so I have a few questions on rules if you all could please help. Can I bring weapons I already own for sale or trade to the show? Is it possible to open carry unloaded to my car in the parking lot if I make a purchase or should I bring extra cases? In AZ I always bring guns I don't use much anymore but I can PPT w/o FFL so there are always guys doing this. Is this even a possibility here? Should I bring all possible trades unloaded in seperate locked briefcase? Just want to get the most from my first CA Crossroads ecperience. Thanks!!
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    SemiAutoSam
    Banned
    • Apr 2006
    • 9130

    SO your looking for some nice beef jerky ?

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    • #3
      leelaw
      Junior Member
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 10445

      Originally posted by tmuller
      I have only been to AZ and NV shows so I have a few questions on rules if you all could please help. Can I bring weapons I already own for sale or trade to the show?
      Yes.
      Is it possible to open carry unloaded to my car in the parking lot if I make a purchase or should I bring extra cases?
      Yes, though the only cash-and-carry purchases you can make are long guns over 50 years old.
      In AZ I always bring guns I don't use much anymore but I can PPT w/o FFL so there are always guys doing this. Is this even a possibility here?
      No. You must do a transfer through a dealer for all handguns, and long guns under 50 years old. The buyer must then wait 10 days to pick-up their gun.
      Should I bring all possible trades unloaded in seperate locked briefcase? Just want to get the most from my first CA Crossroads ecperience. Thanks!!
      Trades are dealt with the same way as purchases - through an FFL, w/ 10 day wait.

      Welcome to California.

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      • #4
        tmuller
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2007
        • 1839

        Originally posted by SemiAutoSam
        SO your looking for some nice beef jerky ?
        No..glass figurines, cell phone cases, and tacky memorabilia. LOL...been through this b4. Actually, hoping for off roster revolvers, good deal on new (larger) gun safe, cheap ammo, and an upper for my first OLL build. I am hoping for the best but I have been warned of the worst. Just don't want to break any rules I'm not aware of and look like a jack a**. Thanks though!!
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        • #5
          tmuller
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2007
          • 1839

          Thanks leelaw

          I did know some of this stuff but this really helps.

          Originally posted by leelaw
          No. You must do a transfer through a dealer for all handguns, and long guns under 50 years old. The buyer must then wait 10 days to pick-up their gun.
          Can I sell to an individual and have them start DROS that day and take payment that same day? They can pick up the gun from transfering FFL after 10 day wait? Is this how deals are done here or do I have to wait for the buyer to actually complete the 10 days before I can collect payment? I can cash and carry an upper right?

          Trades are dealt with the same way as purchases - through an FFL, w/ 10 day wait.
          So if I trade with someone the FFL holds both of our weapons for ten days...charges us a fee...and then we go pick up the new traded for weapons, right? Regardless I'd rather be at the Del Mar show this weekend than one in PHX this time of year. HOT!!!
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          • #6
            Librarian
            Admin and Poltergeist
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2005
            • 44677

            Originally posted by tmuller
            Can I sell to an individual and have them start DROS that day and take payment that same day? They can pick up the gun from transfering FFL after 10 day wait?
            That's how mine have worked, as a buyer.

            Originally posted by tmuller
            Regardless I'd rather be at the Del Mar show this weekend than one in PHX this time of year. HOT!!!
            It seems to me that both parties, as a practical matter, have to have California ID for a PPT in California... the reference to Phoenix sales has caused me to wonder, though you might be that rara avis, a dual-state-citizenship holder.
            ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

            Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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            • #7
              tmuller
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2007
              • 1839

              Originally posted by Librarian
              It seems to me that both parties, as a practical matter, have to have California ID for a PPT in California... the reference to Phoenix sales has caused me to wonder
              I live and work in CA...I possess a CA DL and the proof of residency has been met on the 4 purchases I have made so far since I have been here have all used my auto registration...also CA. I do however still own a home in AZ but I do not work there or live full time...I'd love dual citizenship but I don't think I can get it. Thanks so much for this info, especially the knowledge on when payment is collected for PPT deals. I just didn't want to ask for money b4 someone receives product, seems strange to me...though so do so many other things about this state.
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              • #8
                leelaw
                Junior Member
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2005
                • 10445

                Originally posted by tmuller
                I live and work in CA...I possess a CA DL and the proof of residency has been met on the 4 purchases I have made so far since I have been here have all used my auto registration...also CA. I do however still own a home in AZ but I do not work there or live full time...I'd love dual citizenship but I don't think I can get it. Thanks so much for this info, especially the knowledge on when payment is collected for PPT deals. I just didn't want to ask for money b4 someone receives product, seems strange to me...though so do so many other things about this state.
                Once the DROS (transfer through FFL) is done, the gun is in the buyer's name - it's his, but the possession is deferred by ten days.

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                • #9
                  blkA4alb
                  Moderator Emeritus
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 3576

                  Tmuller you do realize that you cannot purchase a firearm out of your state of residence correct? Federal law.
                  Please, calm down.

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                  • #10
                    DRM6000
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 5910

                    he can purchase it, but cannot take possesion of it until it's been transferred to him through a dealer in his homestate.

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                    • #11
                      tmuller
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1839

                      Originally posted by tmuller
                      I live and work in CA...I possess a CA DL
                      I live in CA...I work in CA...I was born in CA...I've bought 4 firearms since I've been back in CA. This is just my first gun show in CA. Thanks for all your help and I promise not to break an federal or state laws...jeesh.

                      Originally posted by leelaw
                      Once the DROS (transfer through FFL) is done, the gun is in the buyer's name - it's his, but the possession is deferred by ten days.
                      Thanks!! If for some reason the buyer is denied is the gun returned to me/do I need to return funds/does FFL take possession?
                      WTB - prelock smith 44's

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