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  • semperfidelis354
    Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 437

    range report= I suck.....

    there I was, it was a crisp day on the range where I laid out my MN 91/30 and my Yugo SKS, I whipped out my spotting scope and positioned it down range to my intended target. with it's scoring rings fixed perfectly in my glass I wen behind my first rifle of the day, the MN.

    I wrapped my arm into the sling and dug the long rifle into my shoulder for stabilty, my elbose poised on the shooting table. leaning in slowly I excitedly viewed down my sights acquiring my target. The wind picks up but only slightly, not enough for me to adjust. Breath in, breath out, pause... BOOM went the first of my many rounds down range, BOOM BOOM went my second and third (not that quickly but you get the Idea). I put the weapon down and bent behind my spotting scope looking at my first three rounds, hopefully telling me if the rifle must be re zeroed.


    And there they weren't....

    yep thats right no dice, the long and short of it is either my rifles are way off (since I have only done kentucky windage since I bought them due to no sight tools), or I have the shooting eye of a 90 year old blind man with a nervous tick.

    I'm thinkingboth are true I need to just invest in a bench rest and sight these things in properely, then shoot the crap out of them. the SKS shot fine enough since I figured out where to adjust aim, but that cursed MN!!!! needless to say I have a bruise on my shoulder almost as big as the one on my ego, eventually I started hitting the steel plates, but sighting onto paper yielded less than moderate results.

    There is my range sob story in a nutshell.

    and that MN was HOT when I finally stopped shooting it, then again it was hot after like the 3rd round...
  • #2
    Jonathan Doe

    If I cannot hit anything at 100 yards, I usually shoot at 25 yards to see where the shot are. You can usually be on the paper and adjust the sights to be able to hit at 100 yards. I did it once for my scoped rifle. It worked for me.

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    • #3
      cannon
      In Memoriam
      • Aug 2008
      • 8589

      Originally posted by topgun7
      If I cannot hit anything at 100 yards, I usually shoot at 25 yards to see where the shot are. You can usually be on the paper and adjust the sights to be able to hit at 100 yards. I did it once for my scoped rifle. It worked for me.
      ^^This^^ and...

      I pick a spot on the berm and you can tell from where the bullet kicks up dirt which way to adjust your sights.
      ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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      • #4
        as_rocketman
        CGSSA Leader
        • Jan 2011
        • 3057

        If you sight in a Mosin at 25 yards, you'll be very close to your 200 yard battlesight zero. There's really no good reason not to sight in closer.

        Another possibililty -- don't laugh, I've done it -- is you fired on the wrong target. Always better to bring a friend to spot, if you can. Shooting with a friend is better anyway!
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        • #5
          Beetle Bailey
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2004
          • 2620

          You can get sight adjustment tools for both those rifles. The SKS uses the same tool as the AK and there's a guy on gunboards who makes a tool for the M91/30. Then you just need a sandbag.

          What distance were the targets?
          "All bad precedents began as justifiable measures." Julius Caesar

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          • #6
            IEShooter
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 1101

            Bad shot

            No worries man. I've been there. How long have you had your Mosin? My first one had all matching numbers, good bluing and a very nice to great stock, yet the bore was dark with uninform pitting throughout.

            As a result, it was minute of barn at 100 yards. Well, not that bad, but nowhere near as accurate as the SKS, AR 10/15 or just about anything else I own.

            The advice above all seems very good in my opinion, so you might try again and invest in a $15 screw on recoil pad from Amazon.com.

            First 20 rounds I put through a Mosin had my shoulder sore for a week!!!!

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            • #7
              Cali-Shooter
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2009
              • 9192

              Range reports like this have happened to me, my friends, and almost everyone I went shooting with. A good way to mitigate these problems is to (like someone before me suggested) bring a friend who can act as a spotter for where the bullets impact if they miss the paper target (this works best if the target is set in front of a dirt/sand/dust hill).

              Also, another way to know if you are hitting your targets without the use of a spotting scope is to shoot at reactive targets. The best kind are ones that you bring or make yourself, but that depends a lot on where you are shooting at. BLM land is the best option here, since most ranges will not let you shoot most things you bring yourself (except maybe private ranges). Some of my favorite reactive targets include: expired canned goods, empty soup cans, diet sodas, fruit, and clay pigeons taped onto target stands.
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              • #8
                tpuig
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2005
                • 2163

                I was at the 25 yard line the other day. Brand new target, new backing paper, not a single hole in the whole thing. Getting my stuff laid out, and the guy in the lane next to me starts shooting. After I get my gear ready, I look at my target. There are a half dozen holes in it. And I haven't fired a shot yet.

                At this point, I'm not sure if he's such a bad shot that he's hitting a target 3 feet to the left of his, or doing it on purpose. I take a step back and ask him if he was intentionally hitting my target, or just having a bad day... He had a sheepish look and apologized. Nice guy, but I wasn't sure there for a moment...
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                • #9
                  semperfidelis354
                  Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 437

                  lol yeah I was shooting at the right target, I did some google-fu and it turns out the 91/30 shooting about 8 inches high is comon enough to warrent people videotading or documenting their fixes! gotta look into that 91/30 tool, I would put the target at 25 yards but I think the range master would not be happy with me, I've heard him talk about the minimum distance for rifle is 100 yards, I'll have to inquire next time.

                  and from the 100 rounds I shot through the 91/30 I did bruise but its not too sore, however I am getting sad eyes from my wife seeing a bruised shoulder

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                  • #10
                    2DoorImpala
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 4698

                    Haven't been to a range that has under 50yards for rifle.

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                    • #11
                      Turbinator
                      Administrator
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 11934

                      How about a boresighter? That'll help you at least get the shots on the paper, or at least that's how it works for me.

                      Turby

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                      • #12
                        MAD SVT
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 1295

                        VERY WELL WRITTEN fail story...

                        keep up the practice.. you'll get there.
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                        • #13
                          FS00008
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 1975

                          Here's a poor-man's fix. Lock the rifle into a benchrest, remove the bolt, look down the bore at the target, see where it's pointed (generally speaking), then look down the sights and see how close they are. Adjust as needed.

                          I did this with my first Mosin because I wanted to spend $50 on ammo rather than a laser boresighter :-)
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                          legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer."

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                          • #14
                            semperfidelis354
                            Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 437

                            Originally posted by MAD SVT
                            VERY WELL WRITTEN fail story...

                            keep up the practice.. you'll get there.
                            are you referring to practicing writing an even better story or shooting?

                            I thought about a laser bore sighter... truthfully I dont really see how to raise the fromt sight on the Mosin, it looks like its just a rod...

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