CA machine gun permit

[islice]

Question for anyone that knows. I have a friend that was able to get a machine gun and destructive device permit for work under his name. The question is what can he actually do with this permit outside of work? I know some gun stores honor it and he doesnt have to wait the 10 days, but what else can he do with it? He doesn't have the intention to buy a machine gun. He's just curious of what he can do with it. Any answers? Thanks in advance!

[Merc1138]

Sounds to me like he can buy machine guns for his company, and then take his company equipment to the range to verify that it still works on the weekends(just like how you take the company car to the drag strip on the weekends to make sure it can still accelerate properly...)

[707electrician]

(just like how you take the company car to the drag strip on the weekends to make sure it can still accelerate properly...)

[Synergy]

What does your "buddy" do for work? Movies or Defense Contractor?

[islice]

What does your "buddy" do for work? Movies or Defense Contractor?

Def. Contractor

[rero360]

They hiring?

[CHS]

The biggest advantage is that he can buy guns without a 10 day wait. I believe he's also not subject to the 1-in-30 day restriction on handgun purchases. He is not roster-exempt though.

That, and he can possess and use and purchase machineguns.

[islice]

The biggest advantage is that he can buy guns without a 10 day wait. I believe he's also not subject to the 1-in-30 day restriction on handgun purchases. He is not roster-exempt though.

That, and he can possess and use and purchase machineguns.

Thanks for the info! Im assuming that this will not allow him to purchase Assault weapons or SBR's though, or will it? I know there is another permit for that. Will this allow him to purchase sub-machine guns like a MP5? Also, where would barrel length fit in to this? That would be interesting if Magpul actually manufactured the FMG-9 and it would be a possible purchase for him. Thanks again.

[NSR500]

Thanks for the info! Im assuming that this will not allow him to purchase Assault weapons or SBR's though, or will it? I know there is another permit for that. Will this allow him to purchase sub-machine guns like a MP5? Also, where would barrel length fit in to this? That would be interesting if Magpul actually manufactured the FMG-9 and it would be a possible purchase for him. Thanks again.

Assuming he has the associated Federal permits and everything else needed, he can in fact have SBR, SBS, AOW, etc... in his possession.

[CHS]

MG status trumps all. If it's full auto, it doesn't matter what it's chambered in (under .50), how long the barrel is, the stock, etc.

Thing is, the CA "Dangerous Weapons" permits are kinda strange. You can get one without being an FFL and the reason for this is so that employees of FFL's (Class 2/3 SOT's) can have MG's and other "bad guns" in their possession for work purposes.

So, by JUST having the MG permit, that doesn't mean he can go out and buy any kind of MG he wants. He would have to go through the same routine and paperwork as any other private individual in other NFA-friendly states, including the $200 tax. The difference between him and you is, the BATFE will approve his paperwork because he's got the MG permit.

Now, if he's also got an 01 or 07 FFL with a class 2 or 3 SOT, then he can basically buy whatever he wants with less federal trouble, and CA will keep out of his hair.

[mooster]

I also had both permits when I was in CA (defense contractor). They allow you to skip the 10-day waiting period, handgun safety certificate and the 30-day per handgun period. The issue is that quite a few CA FFLs won't honor the permits as they are not fully informed of the penal code or have a different interpretation. The penal code says that permit-holders are exempt from these regulations but some believe that the exemption is for work-use only. It is their business, so it is their call on what they feel comfortable with.

One thing to point out is that the while the permits allow you to possess and use the items, there are additional requirements to actually transport or store them. The vehicle transporting the items must be registered with DOJ and you have to meet transport requirements for locking/securing. For storage, DOJ has the right to inspect the premises at any time to see if requirements are being met.