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I live in a small town and am a female who loves to collect guns and go to the range. Cops here are very agressive and often harass. When i go to the range i put my firearm with a lock in the trunk or backseat of my truck and the ammo is in a box under the seat. So the cops say they can charge me for that. Does anyone know more on this topic?
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Welcome to Calguns. Have you actually been harassed? or is this something you heard at a gunshop? It's perfectly legal to transport your firearms in the manner you described.sigpic
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concealed, loaded handgun magazines are illegal.
so if the gun isnt locked up, but a loaded magazine is NOT locked up and under the seat, its a concealed weapon...
This is what I have always been told. I know its stupid, but under strict reading of law its true.Last edited by dieselpower; 01-14-2011, 5:38 PM.Comment
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sigpicNRA Benefactor MemberWould you people please stop bashing "Elmer Fudd?" After all, he was an avid sportsman, hunter, and 2a supporter. -Ed in SacComment
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Best way to transport, to be in compliance with Fed and CA law, it unloaded, in a locked case, preferably a hard case, with gun either in a locked trunk, or if in a pickup, behind the seat back.
If your local PD is saying that method above is illegal transport, then maybe we need to know which town this is."Over-sentimentality, over-softness, in fact washiness and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people. Unless we keep the barbarian virtue, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail." - Theodore Roosevelt
sigpicNRA Benefactor MemberWould you people please stop bashing "Elmer Fudd?" After all, he was an avid sportsman, hunter, and 2a supporter. -Ed in SacComment
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Then, Sir, we will give them the bayonet! (Stonewall Jackson's reply to Colonel B.E. Bee when he reported that the enemy were beating them back. At the first battle of Bull Run, July 1861)
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No.
With the firearm secured properly, there are no other ammunition restrictions. Loose ammo, or filled magazines, can be duct taped to the windshield if you want, no matter how strictly you read the law.
Concealed magazines come under scrutiny when in the commision of a crime."A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......CiceroComment
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Army & Igotdirt4u are spot on with their posts, take note and if there is problems with your local law enforcement, please feel free to contact us on here and we will put you in touch with " the right people " who can solve the harassment issue for you very quickly!Originally posted by Soldier415Originally posted by oaklanderOriginally posted by ohsmilyOriginally posted by hoffmangComment
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I just saw where I mistyped what I have been told and read here like 10 times.
I was told if the handgun ISN'T locked up and a loaded magazine is concealed the gun can be considered concealed.Comment
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Still no.
An unloaded handgun can be openly on the passenger seat, with any amount of ammunition nearby, in or out of magazines.
EXCEPT while traversing a 1000' gun free school zone. Now the handgun MUST be locked up....but not the ammo.
The only ammunition restriction, is it cannot be in a position to be fired (in the chamber, or a loaded magazine inserted).
Only if you are being investigated for a crime, will the fact of a concealed magazine come into play."A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......CiceroComment
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that is not what others say in the 2ndA and law forums.
if ANY part of the firearm is concealed the gun is concealed. So with a loaded magazine for the handgun concealed from view, the the handgun can be considered concealed. I think that last time this was talked about was after people saw the "fish and Game" reality show on TV. The Officer in that show said he could arrest a driver who had an unloaded gun on the seat next to him.
There is some case law or BS trial ruling...really dont care myself.
I really have no dog in this fight, I really dont care which way it is, since I don't drive around with handguns on the seat next to me.Comment
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The title of the thread made me look-Clueless is my wifes favorite movie....
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If you are trying to say the only legal way to transport a handgun is in a locked container you are wrong. Only handguns CONCEALED from view must be in a locked container. There is no true locked law in CA outside of a GFSZ. You can transport open or concealed. If concealed it must be in a locked container or you need a CCW. If open all parts of the handgun must be in full view, holster on the hip excluded under CA law. And never loaded in any case (unless CCW)
It is 100% legal to drive a car with an unloaded Glock on the seat next to you, with a loaded 17rd magazine sitting next to that. Both the magazine and Glock must be visible in plain sight and there can be NO ammo in the Glock. Conceal the Gun (not in a locked container) or conceal the LOADED magazine and you can be arrested.
Like I said, I am not 100% on the loaded magazine concealed while the gun is openly carried. Go to opencarry.org and ask there. There is something telling me there is some interpretation of the law that says this.Comment
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