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  • goback
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 92

    ar-15 or ar-10

    so i have an ar-15 but i was thinking about investing into an ar-10... ive heard things like ar-10's are illegal in Ca. should i just invest into a badass ar-15? is the 10 just overkill?
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    stitchnicklas
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2010
    • 7091

    buy a handgun instead...

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    • #3
      goback
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 92

      i was going to invest in an XD 40 or 45 but after firing my buddy's 40 i didnt like it very much. there was too much snap. i like the heavier 1911 feel. it could just be because im new to firing handguns. im more of a rifle guy. thats why i wanted the ar-10

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      • #4
        GUNFREAK
        Member
        • May 2010
        • 405

        That depends on what you are exactly asking.

        The Armalite AR-10 rifle (for exmaple) is not legal in California. However an Off List Lower chambered in .308 is legal to purchase in California.

        The law banned specific manufacturers like DPMS, Bushmaster and Armalite.

        Since the law has come to effect there have been new maunufacturers that make .308 lowers like Tactical Machining, CMMG and Noveske.

        The answer your second question. No. Having both rifles is not overkill. I am starting mine. The .308 AR can be a very accurate rifle depending on the parts you buy.
        NRA LIFE MEMBER

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        • #5
          goback
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 92

          awesome that was exactly what i was looking for.somebody told me i could get DPMS in CA, but yea when i looked it up, of course you couldnt. thanks a bunch

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          • #6
            WDE91
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 3513

            remember ammo doesnt fall from the gods

            Check out the price of ammo, this may help make your decision
            "Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." James Madison

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            • #7
              Fjold
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Oct 2005
              • 23084

              Tactical Machining in Florida makes off list DPMS patterned lowers.
              Frank

              One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




              Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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              • #8
                ETD1010
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 1298

                I would say the AR-10 platform is great if you are wanting a .308. There are other options out there, but the familiarity of the platform you have with your AR-15 would make it ideal. Keeping in mind prices of ammo, if you want a .308 semi-auto, an Ar-10 isn't a bad way to go. I've shot them many a times and they are great. M1As are also amazing, and I really really love my FAL. Another advantage to the AR-10s is that you can change your caliber as easily as on an AR-15. I'd LOVE to have on in .260 rem.

                ETA: i think everyone should have a .308. . . You may not shoot it as often due to ammo prices, but a "badass" AR-15 only LOOKS as such. It doesn't help its function (aside from adding, say, a nice eotech or aimpoint). My AR-15 is simple, but I can hit anything with it. Having a nice .308 semi-auto around is a great addition to any collection.
                Last edited by ETD1010; 12-09-2010, 12:02 PM. Reason: spelling

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                • #9
                  goback
                  Junior Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 92

                  yea, thats what i was thinking. i just have a stag model 8 with a off brand acog which i recently took off cuz it was getting annoying. i just stuck the regular carry handle on and did some minor adj. anything in 150-200 yards is dead so why bother trying to "pimp my ride" when it still gets from point a to point b.

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                  • #10
                    GUNFREAK
                    Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 405

                    Originally posted by Fjold
                    Tactical Machining in Florida makes off list DPMS patterned lowers.
                    That is nother thing to keep in mind about building an AR-10. It is not like the Ar-15 ewhere they are mil-spec and any lower will fit any upper.

                    There are two main types of lowers:
                    Those that follow the DPMS model and those that follow the Armalite model.

                    For example, an Armalite upper will NOT fit on a CMMG lower because it follows the DPMS model.

                    The majority of lowers out there use the DPMS platform including Tactical Machining, CMMG, LMT, Knight's Armament Co., and other I can't remember.

                    They also use different magazines. Armalite uses a magazine similar to the
                    M-14 mags.

                    DPMS has their own version which MagPul makes a compatible polymer mag.

                    I believe there is a manufacturer that is compatible with FAL mags too.

                    The more I researched the more I noticed that the majority of manufactureres are going towards the DPMS model.

                    clear as mud?
                    NRA LIFE MEMBER

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                    • #11
                      Rob454
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 11254

                      make sure you can feed that AR 10 with the 308 ammo. While prices have come down I foresee the prices going back up in right about 16 months or so.
                      The cheaper 308 ammo will be wolf steel case but some ARs don't like shooting steel case so youll be stuck shooting brass. i would get a reloader for your 5.56 AR and get a nice handgun.

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                      • #12
                        goback
                        Junior Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 92

                        i have access to a reloader and many of my buddies shoot some kind of .308 so im not really worried about ammo prices... and i dont see why people are telling me to get a handgun... im obviously trying to figure out what i should do for an ar-10 which is nowhere near the applications of a handgun.. i dont even see how this is popping into your head as a solution to my question.... ever think i might already own a 1911.

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                        • #13
                          Hk996
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 659

                          Just get the AR10, since you already own a AR15. Now you have to decide which "style" you want. Mine is armalite type and I have a noveske lower on it. If you do a search there are lists of which manufacturers make armalite vs. dpms.

                          I am really happy with shooting the 308 at Angeles for the longer shots beyond 400yrds. Sure, the ar15 can reach out to 600, but you can't tell if you hit it unless you have a spotter, whereas with the 308, you know!
                          kevin.

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                          • #14
                            rg_1111@yahoo.com
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 5761

                            I have had both Dpms and Armalite in .308 I have the Armalite. If you have the money buy the Aero lower and Armalite upper. It cost a little more,But you get what you pay for.

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                            • #15
                              Rob454
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 11254

                              Originally posted by goback
                              i have access to a reloader and many of my buddies shoot some kind of .308 so im not really worried about ammo prices... and i dont see why people are telling me to get a handgun... im obviously trying to figure out what i should do for an ar-10 which is nowhere near the applications of a handgun.. i dont even see how this is popping into your head as a solution to my question.... ever think i might already own a 1911.
                              yes i am cleryvoiant and I know every gun you have in your house. Buy whatever you want. You asked for opinions and I gave you one. You did not say anything in your OP about having access to reloading for 308 or your buddies shooting 308 and no mention of no worry about ammo prices. Maybe you should give all this information BEFORE you start snapping and barking at people who are trying to simply help you

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