AR lower Questions?

[integraracer157]

just wondering why the brands of stripped lowers i wanted cant be shipped to Ca? it my secound build and had to purchase a rock river arms stripped lower at my local gunshop. had to pay way more then i wanted to. But the brands that are good price say cannot ship to Ca. why it that? why can my local shop stock stripped lowers in some brands and not others?

[freonr22]

jd? california company

[i1800collect]

What lower(s), specifically, were you looking at that couldn't be shipped into CA?

Read through and understand the CA AW Flowchart. Either the lower(s) you were looking at are banned or the company/store/manufacturer just didn't want to deal with CA customers.

[rg_1111@yahoo.com]

Some Lowers are outlawed by Name.

[integraracer157]

https://surplusammo.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=33&zenid=65ce5c678849675706a15f096c792eb3

i like that price of 79. also another from grizzly that was sweet looking and $69 i paid 170 for RRR because i have all my parts and needed a Lower. cold war shooters is where i use to get cmmg for cheaper. but they lost there ffl do to some owner cant keep his thing in his pants and did a bad divorce move and his wife nailed him. so i found a local shop that stocks the stag and RRR but i wanted one more in my budget.

[i1800collect]

It looks like Surplus Ammo & Arms just doesn't want to deal with CA customers. Their lower isn't listed.

How far do you live from RifleGear (Fountain Valley)? They have several very nice lowers on sale for $99.

[integraracer157]

i lice in Redlands, Ca. i got the bullet button mag release and im using a bull barrel with no threads so from what i understand mine is fully legal. any advise? id love to buy another lower for a 308. or 270 so ill be looking for another real soon

[integraracer157]

fountain valley not to far for me, wish id asked before i dropped all the money on RRA. i contacted a shop i saw on here in upland. high impact. but they never returned my call. And to me that scary when you dont get even a call back. thanks for advice on riflegear. ill check them out for sure

[dieselpower]

The manufactures don't know. So say if you called bushmaster, they may tell you the only Bushmaster legal in CA is their sealed magazine type...and they would be wrong.

Same if you called Colt or DPMS...they have no idea. the best way is to find a vendor...not the manufacturer.

Take LaRue Tactical (who arguably makes the best AR15). He knows his Rifles are legal here, but fears our AG. He will not ship a lower directly here. He will allow a distributor to sell to us. At one time he didn't allow ANYONE to sell one of his lowers to CA. He changed his mind and donated $24,000 to CFG for us, two checks for $12K I think.

[integraracer157]

OK i looking at the flow chart and really confused. I purchased the lower and built the rifle, according to that chart what i understand is all ar are illegal. how do i know if its a registered assault rifle?

[integraracer157]

looks like all rock river arms are on the b list. what if you used a RRA lower and 20" varmint barrel

[ke6guj]

OK i looking at the flow chart and really confused. I purchased the lower and built the rifle, according to that chart what i understand is all ar are illegal. how do i know if its a registered assault rifle?

where did you get in the flowchart that all ARs are illegal? YOu would know if it was a registered assault weapon if you specifically registered it with CADOJ as an AW during the 1992 and 2000 registration periods. If you didn't do this, then you don't have a RAW.

looks like all rock river arms are on the b list. what if you used a RRA lower and 20" varmint barrel

No, not all RRA are on the list. Only the following models are listed,

Rock River Arms, Inc. Car A2
Rock River Arms, Inc. Car A4 Flattop
Rock River Arms, Inc. LE Tactical Carbine
Rock River Arms, Inc. NM A2 - DCM Legal
Rock River Arms, Inc. Standard A-2
Rock River Arms, Inc. Standard A-4 Flattop

If you RRA is not one of these models, it is not listed. Now, there are some issues regarding building up a RRA lower with your own parts to something that might be similar to one of the listed models, which is why many of us suggest that you use a different brand other than RRA.

[integraracer157]

thanks for the info. that really sucks. i already bought it and pic it up in 6 more days.

[integraracer157]

ok one more Q. if im using a 20 Bull barrel would that make it legal. because im using a4 flat top but the list says car and standard a4 flat top. isnt the standard 16"

[ke6guj]

ok one more Q. if im using a 20 Bull barrel would that make it legal. because im using a4 flat top but the list says car and standard a4 flat top. isnt the standard 16"

thats why I tell my friends not to buy RRA, extra work to stay legal. You need to go to RRA's website and look up what those different models are to make sure that you don't duplicate it (some people will say that if you use non-RRA parts in the upper that that would make it not match the listing, but that is too close to the edge for me). Easier to just tell people not to buy RRA and then they can build in any legal configuration.