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  • GoingQuiet
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Oct 2010
    • 2729

    Sig Short Reset Triggers - CA Legal?

    Someone on another forum said the sig SRT upgrade is not CA legal.

    I checked the roster and there are many a gun on the roster that are CA legal - and it seems to me that many of them are shipping from the factory with SRT installed.

    In any case - does anyone know if Sig pistols factory equipped with SRT are CA legal?

    I'm PRETTY sure that trigger improvements post-sale should be legal as I didn't see any laws regulating them but would doing an SRT conversion on a CA customers behalf be legal?

    Thanks!
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    Plisk
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    • Mar 2009
    • 3007

    Post-sale SRT kit is completely legal. Ordering it from the factory pre-DROS... I don't know if that would modify the weapon to the point where it's not technically an on-list pistol. Someone else should know this for sure, but post-sale SRT is defiantly cool.
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    • #3
      freonr22
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      • #4
        MP301
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2008
        • 4168

        Well, going on the fact that there is nothing to my knowledge anywhere that says they are not and the fact that I know several others with factory installed SRT's in their 226's and 220's (I get my Sigs directly from the factory as well)....id say it is Bull****.

        The trick is, with people saying something is or isnt legal, is to compell them to cite a statute or other verifying information to go along with their claim. If they cant, then ask them why they would spread bull**** without proof...it happens here all the time...at leas the part about making someone put up or shut up..
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        • #5
          Plisk
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          • Mar 2009
          • 3007

          I see the logic behind it not being legal from the factory. Since the SRT is not a standard feature on a standard (let's say) P226R 9mm plain sights. When it was submitted for approval, it had the standard trigger. It could be argued that an SRT equipped P226R is not the exact model that is approved.

          I personally think its too minuscule to matter at all, but again I'm sure someone will jump in and be able to say for sure. I know the list is picky about somethings like color, ambi-safey, etc. But trigger work? I dunno.
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          • #6
            MP301
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 4168

            Originally posted by Plisk
            I see the logic behind it not being legal from the factory. Since the SRT is not a standard feature on a standard (let's say) P226R 9mm plain sights. When it was submitted for approval, it had the standard trigger. It could be argued that an SRT equipped P226R is not the exact model that is approved.

            I personally think its too minuscule to matter at all, but again I'm sure someone will jump in and be able to say for sure. I know the list is picky about somethings like color, ambi-safey, etc. But trigger work? I dunno.
            Yeah, I do see your point. But if its something that doesnt change the model designation or the color , and its something that doesnt change the approved safety features...andcan be added by the owner later...I think it would be a stretch it would be a real stretch. Not that I would put it past them earlier on...but that list is going to be changed radically or disappear before long..not worth it.
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              Plisk
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              • Mar 2009
              • 3007

              Originally posted by MP301
              Yeah, I do see your point. But if its something that doesnt change the model designation or the color , and its something that doesnt change the approved safety features...andcan be added by the owner later...I think it would be a stretch it would be a real stretch. Not that I would put it past them earlier on...but that list is going to be changed radically or disappear before long..not worth it.
              It could change the approved safety features because it did not pass drop test with the SRT fire control in it. And by your logic of something that is capable of being added later.... then that would apply to any feature or model pretty much.

              Being an FFL, if someone had a 226R SRT come in, chances are I would not even notice the SRT and DROS it anyway, since a lot of models are coming with the short trigger in place which makes them look identical.
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              • #8
                9mmepiphany
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2008
                • 8075

                The Sig models most closely associated with the SRT action are the Elite and E2 come with the SRT factory installed are not on the roster. But as Plisk said, how many people could tell by just looking or even pulling the trigger (it only affects the reset) that it was SRT equipped
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                • #9
                  rockman
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 1148

                  Not sure about the safe list, but in my county you can't have any modifications on triggers on your ccw guns.(unless performed at the factory).
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                  • #10
                    GoingQuiet
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 2729

                    Thanks guys, I had a feeling that was wrong.

                    and if anyone is interested - I'll be doing SRT installs!
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                    • #11
                      9mmepiphany
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 8075

                      Be careful if you are going to clean up the action when you install, the SRT disables certain safety features.

                      As a side note, I understood that Sig was discontinuing sales of the SRT parts to all but LE Armorers
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                      • #12
                        Plisk
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 3007

                        Originally posted by 9mmepiphany
                        Be careful if you are going to clean up the action when you install, the SRT disables certain safety features.

                        As a side note, I understood that Sig was discontinuing sales of the SRT parts to all but LE Armorers
                        I talked to my Sig rep about them last week and he didn't mention anything like this.
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                        • #13
                          yzErnie
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                          Originally posted by Plisk
                          I see the logic behind it not being legal from the factory. Since the SRT is not a standard feature on a standard (let's say) P226R 9mm plain sights. When it was submitted for approval, it had the standard trigger. It could be argued that an SRT equipped P226R is not the exact model that is approved.
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                            Plisk
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 3007

                            Another point to consider toward the fact... Sigs with DAO triggers are a separate approved handgun. Granted there are some bigger physical differences in the models, but still different trigger and different listing.
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                            • #15
                              GoingQuiet
                              Vendor/Retailer
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 2729

                              Originally posted by 9mmepiphany
                              Be careful if you are going to clean up the action when you install, the SRT disables certain safety features.

                              As a side note, I understood that Sig was discontinuing sales of the SRT parts to all but LE Armorers
                              I'm just going to be doing a gun cleaning with all the small parts out and parts swap. No cleaning of action unless it involves some elbow grease and a well oiled patch.

                              I just did armorer school and SRT parts are available to me without a problem without being an LE armorer. The statement that you made is hard to understand given the sheer popularity of the SRT package now that I'm constantly being asked to do installs. I've got customers that just tried their first SRT equipped gun and they want all of them set up that way now.

                              There will be PLENTY of SRT kits in my parts bin.

                              Originally posted by Plisk
                              I see the logic behind it not being legal from the factory. Since the SRT is not a standard feature on a standard (let's say) P226R 9mm plain sights. When it was submitted for approval, it had the standard trigger. It could be argued that an SRT equipped P226R is not the exact model that is approved.

                              I personally think its too minuscule to matter at all, but again I'm sure someone will jump in and be able to say for sure. I know the list is picky about somethings like color, ambi-safey, etc. But trigger work? I dunno.
                              This is what I was afraid of - I don't want any of my customers getting any grief.

                              In any case - there seems to be no illegality to taking a gun purchased as CA Compliant and doing after market upgrades.
                              Last edited by GoingQuiet; 12-10-2010, 10:59 PM.
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