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  • easy
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 1287

    FFLs -"gift" question

    When filling out the paperwork, there's a line that asks if this is a gift, presumably for someone else. How does that affect the transaction?
    The thing with firearms is that they are not like any other consumer product, simple ownership of one carries a lot of responsibility.

    Some idiots are too busy knowing it all to ever learn anything
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    CHS
    Moderator Emeritus
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jan 2008
    • 11338

    On the 4473 it asks if you are the actual buyer of the firearm, which lawfully includes you even if you are buying the gun as a gift for someone else.

    Even in the clarification statements in the back of the 4473 it clearly states that it is lawful to purchase a firearm for someone else as a gift, and that is not considered a straw sale.

    So if you are purchasing a firearm as a gift for someone else, you would legally be able to answer "yes" to the question asking if you are the actual buyer of the firearm.
    Please read the Calguns Wiki
    Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
    --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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    • #3
      easy
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 1287

      Happiness! Thanks!
      The thing with firearms is that they are not like any other consumer product, simple ownership of one carries a lot of responsibility.

      Some idiots are too busy knowing it all to ever learn anything
      sigpic
      "...this isn't a perfect world. It's California."

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      • #4
        cgseanp1
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 4651

        How does that work? Would you have to go back to the FFL and do a transfer for the person you are buying it for?

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        • #5
          jptopz
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 1089

          Originally posted by cgseanp1
          How does that work? Would you have to go back to the FFL and do a transfer for the person you are buying it for?
          Best thing to do is take the person that you want to buy the gun for and have them do the transfer into there name. Give them the cash so it looks as if they are buying it for them self's. It's a no no to buy a gun for someone else.

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          • #6
            Saym14
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2009
            • 7892

            Originally posted by jptopz
            Best thing to do is take the person that you want to buy the gun for and have them do the transfer into there name. Give them the cash so it looks as if they are buying it for them self's. It's a no no to buy a gun for someone else.
            then you cant wrap it and put it under the tree- thats no fun.

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            • #7
              cgseanp1
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 4651

              Originally posted by jptopz
              Best thing to do is take the person that you want to buy the gun for and have them do the transfer into there name. Give them the cash so it looks as if they are buying it for them self's. It's a no no to buy a gun for someone else.
              Post 2 says it is lawful to buy a gun for someone else as a gift, which is why it asks that on the form you fill out.

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              • #8
                CHS
                Moderator Emeritus
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jan 2008
                • 11338

                Originally posted by cgseanp1
                How does that work? Would you have to go back to the FFL and do a transfer for the person you are buying it for?
                Depends. If it's for a friend, then yes, you would have to go back at some point and transfer it to their name.

                You could take possession of it, wrap it, put it under their Christmas tree and all that jazz, but you would still have to go to a store and get it lawfully transferred them before 30 days is up (in that time it can be considered a loan, which is also lawful).

                Originally posted by jptopz
                Best thing to do is take the person that you want to buy the gun for and have them do the transfer into there name. Give them the cash so it looks as if they are buying it for them self's. It's a no no to buy a gun for someone else.
                Wow.. You just DEFINED suspicious straw sale.

                Next time, read the 4473 before you sign it. Gifts are lawful.
                Please read the Calguns Wiki
                Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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