Cash & Carry?

[rgs1975]

1958 shotgun, 1974 shotgun, 2007 shotgun & 1945 M1 Carbine... Are these guns just cash and carry to sell or does the transaction need to go through an FFL?

[mosinnagantm9130]

1958 and M1 are cash and carry. 74 and 07 need to go through an FFL.

[Mad Jax]

1958 and M1 are cash and carry. 74 and 07 need to go through an FFL.

that's what I believe, but I have ran into a turners ( I like turners) that said reguardless of the age you have to do everything same as a new firearm, unless you have a FFL or a collectors license, I told them that I found that hard to believe but wasn't going to argue with them after all it was theirs to sell. So PPT no, FFL dealer maybe.

[Patriot Man]

I am no expert, but if you buy from a show or a store it has to be the DROS and 10 day wait and all that. The only way you can buy an antique (> than 50 years old) as cash and carry is if is a PPT and not through a dealer?. I am pretty sure of that, but someone who knows more could pipe in.

[RideIcon]

that's what I believe, but I have ran into a turners ( I like turners) that said reguardless of the age you have to do everything same as a new firearm, unless you have a FFL or a collectors license.

[GrizzlyGuy]

that's what I believe, but I have ran into a turners ( I like turners) that said reguardless of the age you have to do everything same as a new firearm, unless you have a FFL or a collectors license, I told them that I found that hard to believe but wasn't going to argue with them after all it was theirs to sell. So PPT no, FFL dealer maybe.

Turners is spreading FUD. Mosinnagantm9130 has it right, see here in the FAQ:

How do I buy a C&R long gun (rifle or shotgun)?

[Mad Jax]

Thanks "GRIZZLY GUY"

[JagerTroop]

that's what I believe, but I have ran into a turners ( I like turners) that said reguardless of the age you have to do everything same as a new firearm, unless you have a FFL or a collectors license, I told them that I found that hard to believe but wasn't going to argue with them after all it was theirs to sell. So PPT no, FFL dealer maybe.

Turners is spreading FUD. Mosinnagantm9130 has it right, see here in the FAQ:

How do I buy a C&R long gun (rifle or shotgun)?

If I'm reading this correctly, Turners is NOT spreading FUD. If Turners is selling a C&R gun, they cannot cash and carry it to anyone without a FFL (03 works too). If it's a PPT, then no FFL needed unless it's a pistol.

CGF Wiki
"If you are buying it from a gun dealer (FFL) the process is the same as for any other long gun. "

If I'm not understanding the situation, I appologize.

For the record, I like Turners too. I grew up on them and their FUD

[Librarian]

If I'm reading this correctly, Turners is NOT spreading FUD. If Turners is selling a C&R gun, they cannot cash and carry it to anyone without a FFL (03 works too). If it's a PPT, then no FFL needed unless it's a pistol

Right.

It wasn't clear in the OP who was the seller.

If Turner's means things they sell, they're right. If they mean it's that way no matter who the seller is, they're half right.

[Cokebottle]

that's what I believe, but I have ran into a turners ( I like turners) that said reguardless of the age you have to do everything same as a new firearm, unless you have a FFL or a collectors license, I told them that I found that hard to believe but wasn't going to argue with them after all it was theirs to sell. So PPT no, FFL dealer maybe.

PPT = Cash and carry.
Dealer stock, standard DROS and 10 day wait (even if you DO have an 03FFL). Only exemption is if you have an 03FFL and a COE, then no 10 day wait.
But for a private party sale, you can legally buy that gun in the WalMart parking lot.

The only way you can buy an antique (> than 50 years old) as cash and carry is if is a PPT and not through a dealer?

Antique = manufactured in 1898 or before.
C&R = >50 years old.

The difference is important. Antique handguns are cash and carry, but handguns that are newer than 1898 but older than 50 years are treated the same as a modern handgun for private party or dealer sales, regardless of possession of an 03FFL (again, unless accompanied by a COE, then the 10 day wait is waived).

If I'm reading this correctly, Turners is NOT spreading FUD. If Turners is selling a C&R gun, they cannot cash and carry it to anyone without a FFL (03 works too). If it's a PPT, then no FFL needed unless it's a pistol.

That is correct.

ALL dealer inventory sales are processed identically, whether the gun is 5 years old or 75 years old.
Even with the 03FFL, the 10 day wait applies unless the buyer also has a COE. This applies to long guns or handguns.

Private party, long guns over 50 years old do not require an FFL to be involved for an intrastate transfer.

Private party handgun sales are treated the same as modern private party handgun sales. FFL is required.

[GrizzlyGuy]

If I'm reading this correctly, Turners is NOT spreading FUD. If Turners is selling a C&R gun, they cannot cash and carry it to anyone without a FFL (03 works too). If it's a PPT, then no FFL needed unless it's a pistol.



If I'm not understanding the situation, I appologize.

For the record, I like Turners too. I grew up on them and their FUD

Ahhh... you're right, my bad. I didn't get that the Turner's guy was referring to themselves as the seller.