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  • Silverlake223
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 795

    Is my S&W AR going to blow?

    Just got back from Angeles crest, where I shot maybe 120 rounds of Israel Military 5.56. Beautiful day up there etc. Decided to walk into the "gun shop" where I met the owner of Shooters Edge. We got to talking a bit, when he told me, "you know despite the fact that your Smith is stamped 5.56 on the barrel, it could blow due to the extreme pressure of the 5.56 rounds He further explained, that despite the testing done at the factory, the thicker case, more powder military rounds routinely reach the extreme end of the testing limits. For $100 dollars, he will reshape the barrel a bit (free bore) which will allow these rounds to be fired without potential problems. Hum... while I knew that there was a difference between these rounds, I did not realize that something like this could happen. So, should I pay the hundred bucks, shoot .223 only, get a 1800 dollar Colt upper (which he says are the best) or roll the dice? Or, is this not correct, as it sounds to me like lots of potential lawsuits which no company wants.
    Quod sumus hoc eritis
  • #2
    Noobert
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 3342

    Lots of FUD from that guy. Your S&W will take 5.56 just fine
    Last edited by Noobert; 11-14-2010, 5:23 PM.
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    • #3
      cgseanp1
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 4651

      Originally posted by Silverlake223
      Just got back from Angeles crest, where I shot maybe 120 rounds of Israel Military 5.56. Beautiful day up there etc. Decided to walk into the "gun shop" where I met the owner of Shooters Edge. We got to talking a bit, when he told me, "you know despite the fact that your Smith is stamped 5.56 on the barrel, it could blow due to the extreme pressure of the 5.56 rounds He further explained, that despite the testing done at the factory, the thicker case, more powder military rounds routinely reach the extreme end of the testing limits. For $100 dollars, he will reshape the barrel a bit (free bore) which will allow these rounds to be fired without potential problems. Hum... while I knew that there was a difference between these rounds, I did not realize that something like this could happen. So, should I pay the hundred bucks, shoot .223 only, get a 1800 dollar Colt upper (which he says are the best) or roll the dice? Or, is this not correct, as it sounds to me like lots of potential lawsuits which no company wants.
      I'm not an expert, but I say he is completely full of it. 556 uppers are made for 556 and can shoot 223. Now, if you were shooting 556 in a .223 upper, he might be correct. And, you can get a really nice Colt upper for 1000 or less!


      that guy just wants your dough

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      • #4
        Cyc Wid It
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 4485

        Aside from the chart as a reference point:


        I found this thread to be a good read with the OP by Grant of G&R Tactical:


        Like he says, not everybody needs top spec stuff, so figure out what it is you need and decide accordingly. The barrel will probably be just fine.
        WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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        • #5
          J-cat
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2005
          • 6626

          Military 556 brass is not necessarily thicker than commercial 223 brass.

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          • #6
            Silverlake223
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 795

            Kind of thought so. I have been shooting 5.56 out of a Mini 14 for almost 10 years with no issues. I suppose anything is possible, but S&W has been around long enough to not allow their products to fail in this manner.
            Quod sumus hoc eritis

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            • #7
              sly409
              Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 101

              Originally posted by Silverlake223
              Just got back from Angeles crest, where I shot maybe 120 rounds of Israel Military 5.56. Beautiful day up there etc. Decided to walk into the "gun shop" where I met the owner of Shooters Edge. We got to talking a bit, when he told me, "you know despite the fact that your Smith is stamped 5.56 on the barrel, it could blow due to the extreme pressure of the 5.56 rounds He further explained, that despite the testing done at the factory, the thicker case, more powder military rounds routinely reach the extreme end of the testing limits. For $100 dollars, he will reshape the barrel a bit (free bore) which will allow these rounds to be fired without potential problems. Hum... while I knew that there was a difference between these rounds, I did not realize that something like this could happen. So, should I pay the hundred bucks, shoot .223 only, get a 1800 dollar Colt upper (which he says are the best) or roll the dice? Or, is this not correct, as it sounds to me like lots of potential lawsuits which no company wants.
              ^this

              The guy sounds like a douchebag that just wanted to make a quick buck off someone who was less knowledgeable about this subject.

              You're rifle is marked 5.56, it will shoot 5.56 just fine. If it was .223 then no you shouldnt shoot 5.56. Why would a company want to put themselves in that position with a potential lawsuit waiting to happen?

              If you're rifle worked fine then continue shooting it and don't worry. If you actually have any real problems then come back and ask questions or search.

              Have fun.

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              • #8
                TKM
                Onward through the fog!
                CGN Contributor
                • Jul 2002
                • 10657



                We've got questions.

                Can't wait to see the answers.
                It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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                • #9
                  bigmike82
                  Bit Pusher
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 3876

                  *ROFL*

                  Isn't that the guy who ran the SUPER-EXTREME-HARDCORE-SNIPER-MEGA-XXXXX rifle shoot?
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                  • #10
                    tomd1584
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 5895

                    $1800 colt upper?

                    This guy is Full of it.

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                    • #11
                      evidens83
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 7839

                      The FUD is strong with that guy..
                      WTS 10/22 Lasermax laser CHEAP!!!

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                      • #12
                        Vtec44
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 2237

                        What's the shop's name?
                        "When chosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never tried before." - Mae West

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                        • #13
                          cgseanp1
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4651

                          Originally posted by Silverlake223
                          Just got back from Angeles crest, where I shot maybe 120 rounds of Israel Military 5.56. Beautiful day up there etc. Decided to walk into the "gun shop" where I met the owner of Shooters Edge. We got to talking a bit, when he told me, "you know despite the fact that your Smith is stamped 5.56 on the barrel, it could blow due to the extreme pressure of the 5.56 rounds He further explained, that despite the testing done at the factory, the thicker case, more powder military rounds routinely reach the extreme end of the testing limits. For $100 dollars, he will reshape the barrel a bit (free bore) which will allow these rounds to be fired without potential problems. Hum... while I knew that there was a difference between these rounds, I did not realize that something like this could happen. So, should I pay the hundred bucks, shoot .223 only, get a 1800 dollar Colt upper (which he says are the best) or roll the dice? Or, is this not correct, as it sounds to me like lots of potential lawsuits which no company wants.
                          Shooters Edge

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                          • #14
                            thetaxman
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 885



                            It's a great weapon, so you shoot that puppy all day with as much 5.56 as you can get your hands on.
                            There are no great men. Just great challenges which ordinary men, out of necessity, are forced by circumstance to meet.

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                            • #15
                              Army
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 3915

                              "Fartherest" ??

                              HAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!



                              If basic English is not mastered, why the hell would I want to be near these guys with loaded firearms?
                              "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......Cicero

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