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  • 1_Grendel
    Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 377

    Used Gun prices???

    I have been here for a bit but have not been one who posts much. Met a few guys and lady while working a booth and i hope i can get a little question answered.

    I have been looking through on line gun sale places such as GunBroker and here. I am puzzled by the asking prices for used guns. Why would people pay full price or more for a used gun? Ok, if it is rare or highly wanted/valued I get it and understand. But to pay more than new for example the run of the mill Glock,,, I have seen asking prices at $100+ what I and many others can get new.
    If someone made a bad decision and paid too much for a gun or anything why does it seem that the sellers wants the buyer to compensate them for overpaying?
    I haven’t even offered to buy due to my offer is likely $100s less than the asking price.
    I understand the seller’s asking price being a bit high to leave room for negotiation but $100+ higher than new???

    If used price pluse fees is within $75 of new i will most likly buy new.

    Just confused about how people come to their asking price.

    ***Note not everyone one is doing this. Just the ones that I might be interest in seem to be IMHO overpriced.

    Thanks,

    Glock Example

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    ir0nclash86
    Veteran Member
    • May 2010
    • 3601

    You do realize youre looking at Proforce.com which only sells to Police/military/security right? They get special pricing. Go to a regular gun store that sells to regular people and youll see price tags around $550 and up

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    • #3
      jaytee
      Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 178

      I know what you're saying. I guess all you can do is sift out the good deals from the chaff. Although I've also seen some deals where you could spend an extra 75 bucks and have the new model.
      You can choose where you spend your money, you know...

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      • #4
        1_Grendel
        Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 377

        Originally posted by ir0nclash86
        You do realize youre looking at Proforce.com which only sells to Police/military/security right? They get special pricing. Go to a regular gun store that sells to regular people and youll see price tags around $550 and up
        Thanks

        yes i do know that is ProForce that is were i got my G26.

        i did mention that i and many others can buy new guns for much less i did not say everyone.

        I have looked at other sites i like walking into BassPro and a few other brick & mortars to check out and fondle the eye candy. ProForce does not beat everyone's prices.

        One point i mentioned still applies; i (a potential used gun buyer), why would i pay more for a used gun because someone (seller) did not get a good price when they bought their gun?

        I am looking to buy used, get a few different weapons for a good price but when i compare prices i keep asking why???

        I look at it kind of like buying a car. There are those that walk in the front door and talk with the first sales man and there are those that talk with the fleet sales department. This analogy will fail sometimes but it is intended to make a point only.
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        • #5
          1_Grendel
          Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 377

          Originally posted by jaytee
          I know what you're saying. I guess all you can do is sift out the good deals from the chaff. Although I've also seen some deals where you could spend an extra 75 bucks and have the new model.
          You can choose where you spend your money, you know...
          at least i am not the only one who see this

          and thanks i think i choose to spend my money wisely, at lest for my interests (encase the old lady is reading)
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          • #6
            vantec08
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 3795

            Many sellers on this forum are offering a package, not just a gun. Magazines, ammo, accessories etc.

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            • #7
              sarge1572
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 1086

              I think the answer you're looking for, and you might not like, is:

              Whatever the market will bear.

              If I can sell my $350 used pistol for $450 you might be crazy to pay that, but I'd be crazy not to sell it.

              If you watch the prices on some of the more available guns that are over priced you'll notice they tend to languish, then they use BTT, and within a few days of no action, "price drop". The guns that are fairly priced, rare, or are desirable, are gone within minutes. When you scan the the Calguns for sale ads, look at the "hot" guns and watch the time stamps from "for sale" to "I'll take it". I've seen some that are less than 3 minutes!!!

              This is a generalization. There are some VERY nice guns that sit, but they are lots of $$$$$. That just my observation.

              Jeff
              Last edited by sarge1572; 10-05-2010, 9:24 PM.

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              • #8
                1_Grendel
                Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 377

                Originally posted by sarge1572
                I think the answer you're looking for, and you might not like, is:

                Whatever the market will bear.

                If I can sell my $350 used pistol for $450 you might be crazy to pay that, but I'd be crazy not to sell it. I agree

                If you watch the prices on some of the more available guns that are over priced you'll notice they tend to languish, then they use BTT, and within a few days of no action, "price drop". The guns that are fairly priced, rare, or are desirable, are gone within minutes. When you scan the the Calguns for sale ads, look at the "hot" guns and watch the time stamps from "for sale" to "I'll take it". I've seen some that are less than 3 minutes!!!

                That just my observation.

                Jeff
                i will look for "hot guns" but i am not looking for any gun just a few when the funds roll in.

                i do make note of the package deals
                Last edited by 1_Grendel; 10-05-2010, 9:29 PM.
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                • #9
                  orangeusa
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 9055

                  I beat a guy by 1 minute recently. I buy used guns because I can tell if they are abused and haven't had a bad buy yet. (One was not a GREAT buy, but I did okay).

                  You, on the other hand get 20-30% discount, so it makes no sense to buy used.

                  But don't forget the tax, and fees of a new gun vs. buying a barely used gun.

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                  • #10
                    whtl
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 1042

                    I agree with 1 Grendel...I just bought a new Sig P226R from a dealer for $740.00 plus....Why would I pay $950.00 for a used one?
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                    • #11
                      shooting4life
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 5768

                      Some people pay to much to begin with. They look at their gun that they paid 600 for at the store when it sells online at 500. Then they had to pay tax and dross on that 600 dollar gun and are in it close to 700. So they go to sell it here and think if they sell it for 500 that it is a good used price.

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                      • #12
                        Helpful_Cub
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 1461

                        If you wait around long enough someone will start another complaint thread about "people keep offering me less than what I think my gun is worth". It just goes down hill from there. The main issue is proper pricing takes market research, then you have to factor in enough of a loss to allow a buyer to justify buying used, the travel and transfer fees and paperwork. A lot of people don't like to negotiate and won't. So there's no way to meet in the middle and make both sides happy. Granted, there are rare cases were special components were added to a gun that may make it a little nicer and therefore increases its value a little. But in general, those add-ons aren't worth that much on the sales price. Its like adding spinners to a beat up rusty car to say the car is worth more now... You aren't in the market for spinners/extras, your in the market for a car/gun.

                        Ego, unless its just a super deal, which is very rare. Its just been easier (and maybe safer) to buy a new gun and keep some local gun store in business. You know where the gun has been, you don't have to worry about the deal going bad, you don't have to drive to a questionable location, you know the gun hasn't been abused, you don't have to worry it was part of some crime spree and generally you can get the newest model and maybe even a rebate. Plus, if your a regular at the gun store, they'll start negotiating and throwing discounts at you. I get a 10% discount just because I ask now
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                        • #13
                          1_Grendel
                          Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 377

                          Originally posted by Helpful_Cub
                          If you wait around long enough someone will start another complaint thread about "people keep offering me less than what I think my gun is worth". It just goes down hill from there. The main issue is proper pricing takes market research, then you have to factor in enough of a loss to allow a buyer to justify buying used, the travel and transfer fees and paperwork. A lot of people don't like to negotiate and won't. So there's no way to meet in the middle and make both sides happy. Granted, there are rare cases were special components were added to a gun that may make it a little nicer and therefore increases its value a little. But in general, those add-ons aren't worth that much on the sales price. Its like adding spinners to a beat up rusty car to say the car is worth more now... You aren't in the market for spinners/extras, your in the market for a car/gun.

                          Ego, unless its just a super deal, which is very rare. Its just been easier (and maybe safer) to buy a new gun and keep some local gun store in business. You know where the gun has been, you don't have to worry about the deal going bad, you don't have to drive to a questionable location, you know the gun hasn't been abused, you don't have to worry it was part of some crime spree and generally you can get the newest model and maybe even a rebate. Plus, if your a regular at the gun store, they'll start negotiating and throwing discounts at you. I get a 10% discount just because I ask now

                          Thanks well said
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                          • #14
                            Flintlock Tom
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 3353

                            I know what you mean. I see the same thing on GunBroker.
                            Many times, when I see a gun that I'm interested in, but is priced "too high", I do a search on "completed auctions" and see that that gun has been up for sale for a long time, sometimes for six months or more. The seller just keeps rolling over the auction. Then, one day, someone buys it. I guess you just have to wait for that one buyer who thinks it's a good deal.
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