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  • 00cummins4x4
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    • Nov 2009
    • 137

    Help me identify this.... round?

    A while back a friend found this, what I'm guessing is a cartridge of some kind, on one of trails up around Cherry Lake in Tuolumne. We have always just speculated at what it may be. It is time to tap your knowledgable minds and figure this out once and for all.







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    CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44093

    20mm or 30mm projectile.
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    • #3
      00cummins4x4
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      • Nov 2009
      • 137

      I don't know if it helps but that is a mini mag light it is next to and a regular size beer mug in the back on the right.

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      • #4
        kurac
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 2917

        It looks like a 20mm and it might have something in it other than lead

        I just measured the bell on a mini mag, it was 25mm and its hard to tell if your expended round is wider or narrower than that.
        Last edited by kurac; 09-27-2010, 8:07 AM.
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        • #5
          tgriffin
          Calguns Addict
          • Nov 2006
          • 5175

          plum-bob?
          Originally posted by pullnshoot25
          I would love to have a hole cut in the ceiling so I could pop out and BAM! Hit 'em with my spice weasel...
          Originally posted by aileron
          The hassle would be between this. (_._) and this (_0_).
          Originally posted by Neil McCauley
          When Im wearing a miniskirt than yeah sure I use my foot to flush the urinals all the time!

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          • #6
            meinbruder
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 73

            Originally posted by 00cummins4x4
            A while back a friend found this, what I'm guessing is a cartridge of some kind, on one of trails up around Cherry Lake in Tuolumne. We have always just speculated at what it may be. It is time to tap your knowledgable minds and figure this out once and for all.
            I have one just like it, minus the nose cone. It measures 37mm and was found sitting on a rock in the area Patton "played" war games in the early forties before being sent to the European theater. The Grant/ Lee and Stuart tanks of the time carried the gun in a turret and there was an AT gun as well, to bad they were obsolete from the get go of Dec '41.

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            • #7
              ponderosa
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 1192

              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
              20mm or 30mm projectile.
              This, depending on dimension.

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              • #8
                00cummins4x4
                Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 137

                Thank you guys. This is interesting. It is in fact the same diameter as the Mini Mag.

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                • #9
                  00cummins4x4
                  Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 137

                  Meinbruder can you send me a pic of your casing I would be interested in seeing another one. I, for the life of me, cannot find a picture of one like it. Thanks.

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                  • #10
                    CSACANNONEER
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                    • Dec 2006
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                    What you have is just a fired projectile, not a "casing".
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                    • #11
                      00cummins4x4
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                      • Nov 2009
                      • 137

                      What may or may not be inside the projectile. Im sorry if I'm asking too much but I'm just happy to be learning this stuff. What are the "ridges" around the bottom for. And for the most intriguing question. Why would this be up by a lake outside Tuolumne City?

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                      • #12
                        CSACANNONEER
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                        • Dec 2006
                        • 44093

                        The ridges are rifling marks. Why was it there? Could have been fired during a training and traveled miles before coming to contact with the earth, could have been carried up there in some kids pocket and lost, could have been ?????

                        I'm far from an ordnace expert so, I won't even speculate what might or might not be inside. But, if ANYTHING other than metals are inside it, it is probably not safe to have and illegal in CA.
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                        • #13
                          FLIGHT762
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 3071

                          The ridges around the bottom is a "Driving Band", which is made out of soft metal,usually copper,brass, etc. This is where the rifling of the cannon barrel contacts the driving band and spins the shell when traveling down the barrel. You see the rest of the shell is made of steel. The driving band prevents steel on steel contact.

                          The shell is likely an inert practice shell,but unless you have an old ordinance expert look at it and confirm it, it's prudent not to fool with it.
                          Last edited by FLIGHT762; 09-27-2010, 4:34 PM.

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                          • #14
                            00cummins4x4
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                            • Nov 2009
                            • 137

                            Thank you guys so much. I knew you Calgunners wouldn't let me down.

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                            • #15
                              Spiggy
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 8688

                              Originally posted by tgriffin
                              plum-bob?
                              pretty sure it's a plum-bob
                              Originally posted by AJAX22
                              Anti gun BS...

                              Finger print recognition is one more thing that keeps your killamajig from performing its killimafunction

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