So Com 16...love at first sight?

[TurboChrisB]

So I've seen the So Com 16's around....cool gun..watched some videos on utube...yeah, cool gun. But I didn't quite "get it". I'd been lusting after a .308 battle rifle for a bit. But I was thinking I'd probably pick up a PTR 91 or something......but I was in RifleGear starting DROS on another gun...when I spied one on the wall...Hmmmmm, so I had them take it down...figured I'd just see how it feels...looked smaller in person than in pics.

Wow, I REALLY like the way this rifle feels. I held it...put it to my shoulder a couple times.

OK

I'm sold.

I want one.

WTF? What is it about this gun?

[m1aowner]

It shoots a big round with a big boom. A fun change up from an AR. But ammo is pricey.

[TurboChrisB]

Yeah, but not compared to my .50 Beowulf haha, I had also considered an AR10, but already having two AR15's and a Wulf....thinking I'm set on the AR platform.

[BigRich]

It is essentially an M1 Carbine that shoots 308. Very handy. A powerful little carbine that is easy to shoot. I have one as a "traveling" gun since it is not an AW. It goes in a colorful soft case that looks like athletic stuff. There is a pouch that easily holds 5 20 round mags. 100 rounds of 308 ought to get me home no matter what comes along.

[BANG BANG]

This is why I'm scared to hold one in person, I'll want to walk out with it. My buddy just got an AR-10 to change things up.

I have 2 AR's and a .223 Keltec and I think the next rifle might have to be a
.308 Socom ....

[mbarnes]

I love mine, it's fun to see people in the indoor ranges jump when it's fired.

[hnoppenberger]

cast brazilian reciever, be advised.
thats the big thing that turns me off about modern m1a's.
Im told the older versions 20 years ago was made from gi parts, except the reicever, which was still a cast reciever.

makes the ar308 look alot more attractive with that info.

[sevensix2x51]

I don't get many chances to shoot out past 2-300yd, so almost all my rifles are carbine length. The socom is featureless by design, light for the platform, handles well and shoots as well as a full length standard at said distances. What's not to love? Some people don't like springfield, inc, and thats ok. I would buy another one if I could afford it.

Oh, I took off the scout rail and put on a standard handguard. The rifle is now perfect. Irons ftw.

[ETD1010]

Too short of a bbl IMO for a .308. I DO, however, love the scout M1a (18" bbl)

[m1aowner]

Don't spread fud. Nothing wrong with M14 type cast receivers. They've been made that way for years and have no problems holding up.

However if you want a forged M14 type receiver, LRB would be more than happy to sell you one by itself, gather your own parts, then send it off to a M14 smith. Or buy a fully assembled rifle from them built mostly GI parts. It will cost significantly more than a SA Standard though, but it will hold it's value.

http://www.lrbarms.com/home.html

cast brazilian reciever, be advised.
thats the big thing that turns me off about modern m1a's.
Im told the older versions 20 years ago was made from gi parts, except the reicever, which was still a cast reciever.

makes the ar308 look alot more attractive with that info.

[hnoppenberger]

Excuse me? how is that FUD?
I stated a fact and stated MY opinion that its a deal breaker and turn off for me.
many people do not know that they are cast in brazil.

Don't spread fud. Nothing wrong with M14 type cast receivers. They've been made that way for years and have no problems holding up.

However if you want a forged M14 type receiver, LRB would be more than happy to sell you one by itself, gather your own parts, then send it off to a M14 smith. Or buy a fully assembled rifle from them built mostly GI parts. It will cost significantly more than a SA Standard though, but it will hold it's value.

http://www.lrbarms.com/home.html

[Astig Boy]

cast brazilian reciever, be advised.
thats the big thing that turns me off about modern m1a's.
Im told the older versions 20 years ago was made from gi parts, except the reicever, which was still a cast reciever.

makes the ar308 look alot more attractive with that info.

Made in Brazil? Thats new to me. I have yet to see a M1A marked "Made in Brazil". My SAI GI45 1911 states Made in Brazil on the bottom of the dust cover, and I must say, it runs like a top. You must be confused, SAI has M1A receivers built in Canada. And it was not 20 years ago either, SAI used USGI parts on their M1As even after 2000...not all but a few parts here and there. Cast vs forged in regards to M14/M1As is all hype. I think these people are just motorheads who know forged pistons are more stout and take more abuse then cast pistons...and this mind set carried over to gun parts. I have yet to hear SAIs cast receivers fail to a point where it became a huge issue. Check theM14firingline...there are no issues listed amongst the M1A owners with cast receivers. The only problem I always hear about of M1As is they are not to spec. Smith Ent also put out M14 cast receivers, and they are all considered top tier and are the most sought after. If your that bent on cast M1A receivers built in Brazil or Canada, then how do you feel about the forged M14 receivers built in China?

The M14 vs AR10 debate has been beaten to death and keeps getting revived. It is much the same as the 1911 vs Glock debate. The money spent for the M14 compared to the AR10 is the same. It all boils down to personal preference really...one isn't better then the other. It is which ever you shoot better, are more comfortable with, and enjoy shooting the most. For me, there is nothing like shooting old steel and wood.

[hnoppenberger]

Go email springfield and ask about their castings. just because it says made in USA does not mean parts are sourced elsewhere.

As far as how I feel about m14s, i think they are great.
Military US forgings, however I'm not able to get anything like that, so I settled for an HRA garand.

the funny thing is, how you guys take my stating a fact as just raw bashing.
listen, I dont want a chinese forging "m14's" either, I want good stuff If im gonna spend REAL money. For me the ar308 is a more attractive option. easier to extract accuracy, and even the cheap versions are forged and US sourced.

the tread was discussing the postive and negs about the SAI m1a. And while they are a great rifle, they come off like they are 'mlitary' grade stuff, they simply are not.

PS, springfield armory inc. , is not the REAL springfield armory.

[Astig Boy]

Go email springfield and ask about their castings. just because it says made in USA does not mean parts are sourced elsewhere.

As far as how I feel about m14s, i think they are great.
Military US forgings, however I'm not able to get anything like that, so I settled for an HRA garand.

the funny thing is, how you guys take my stating a fact as just raw bashing.
listen, I dont want a chinese forging "m14's" either, I want good stuff If im gonna spend REAL money. For me the ar308 is a more attractive option. easier to extract accuracy, and even the cheap versions are forged and US sourced.

the tread was discussing the postive and negs about the SAI m1a. And while they are a great rifle, they come off like they are 'mlitary' grade stuff, they simply are not.

PS, springfield armory inc. , is not the REAL springfield armory.

First of all, youre not even stating any facts. SAI M1A receivers are not made in Brazil. So your credibility to know something about M1As or SAI flys out the window. In other words, if you don't know, then stop posting like you do know.

If you fancy more for an AR308/AR10, then why the hell bother posting. This thread is about the OP love for the SOCOM16...so your just here to piss on someones parade by stating their rifle is of poor quality and outsourced so their not being a "real" American?
There are "real" American built to military spec forged M14 receivers out there...LRB Arms and 762 being two of them. Smith Ent is also in the process of putting out their forged receivers as well.

P.P.S. Ummm have you noticed I abbreviated the Springfield company as SAI and not "SA"...SAI meaning Springfield Armory Inc whom bought the name. Everyone knows they are not the same company as "SA", the original manufacture. That in itself should of gave you a clue that I knew SAI is not the same as the original SA.

[misterjake]

I have a m1a socom 16 and LOOOOOOOVE it!

It's not a 700 yard rifle but I like the fact that it's compact and pumps out .308 in a reasonably sized package.

The muzzle is great for flip too, very controlled for .308.

If you want a battle rifle, will the extra 2-4" make a difference in close quarter combat or distances within 250 yards?

If you want it, get one. I first wanted one in 2006. $1,800 seemed like too much at the time. I bought an ar15 instead. Less than a year later, sold the AR and bought a m1a.

I dont event want to shoot it...i hold it and get happy, kinda like my wife.