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  • cartman
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    • Feb 2007
    • 467

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    KOMO 4 TV provides news, sports, weather and local event coverage in the Seattle, Washington area including Bellevue, Redmond, Renton, Kent, Tacoma, Bremerton, SeaTac, Auburn, Mercer Island, Bothell, Shoreline, Lynnwood, Mill Creek and Everett.


    SILVERDALE , Wash. - Authorities searching a home in Silverdale Tuesday night uncovered a cache of weaponry and body armor, including at least eight handguns, four rifles, grenades, two shotguns and thousands of ammunition magazines.

    That's according to the search warrant affidavit filed in Kitsap County Superior Court in Port Orchard.

    A 38-year-old man who owns the house was arrested for possession of explosives and booked into the Kitsap County Jail. Brian Kelly Sandberg reportedly lived at the house with his wife and their four young children.

    According to court documents, Sandberg's wife took pictures of the weapons and tipped off police out of fear one of their children may get a hold of the weapons. Authorities served a search warrant on the house Tuesday after she reported the man had loaded pistols and rifles around the house in plain view and not locked up as well as a rifle with a M203 grenade launcher and possible land mines.

    "Amongst the numerous hand-held firearms that he had, there were explosive activating devices, fuses, grenades," said Kitsap County sheriff's spokesman Scott Wilson. "This individual was certainly gearing up with some items that would not normally be found in a civilian community. What concerns us the most is the fact that he had illegal explosives and young children in that house."

    Sandberg made his first appearance in Kitsap County Superior Court Wednesday afternoon. Judge Leonard Costello found enough probable cause to hold Sandberg on a charge of possessing explosives without a license. Bail was set at $100,000.

    Sheriff's deputies and detectives, along with a Bremerton police officer with the State Patrol's bomb squad and agents with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives found most of the weapons in the man's bedroom and living room. It is not known what he planned to do with the weapons.
    Mayor Adrian M. Fenty (D) announced. The risk here is that an appeal could lead to an unfavorable Supreme Court ruling, and a legal principle that now applies only to the residents of the nation's capital would extend to the entire nation
  • #2
    antwon412
    Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 209

    bail was still less then BWO's! what a bunch of crap.

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    • #3
      cartman
      Member
      • Feb 2007
      • 467

      it was also in washington. less anti gun people in power
      Mayor Adrian M. Fenty (D) announced. The risk here is that an appeal could lead to an unfavorable Supreme Court ruling, and a legal principle that now applies only to the residents of the nation's capital would extend to the entire nation

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      • #4
        Tweak338
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2006
        • 4076

        Originally posted by MRex21
        His own wife turned him in?!?!?!?

        That's very disturbing.
        I see a divorce in the future..

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        • #5
          AJAX22
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2006
          • 14980

          I wonder if they did there homework.....

          It could be a 37mm flare launcher, a couple of dummy grenades and some training claymores.

          If he hadn't played with the explosives and the DD he'd have gotten off. Its not a crime to have guns and ammo.
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          • #6
            Charliegone
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 6104

            Originally posted by AJAX22
            I wonder if they did there homework.....

            It could be a 37mm flare launcher, a couple of dummy grenades and some training claymores.

            If he hadn't played with the explosives and the DD he'd have gotten off. Its not a crime to have guns and ammo.
            In California it is.


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            -BWiese

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            • #7
              G-dude
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 89

              Note they only charged him with the 'explosive' charges. If he had loaded guns around kids, why didn't they carge him with that? Isn't that a crime, or does the kid have to use it first? Not a good idea if true, to leave loaded guns around with kids, but strange he wasn't charged.

              I hope he divorces that lady. They probably got in a fight or something and maybe he said somethign stupid or told her to eff off. You are under a magnifying glass if you have guns. All someone has to do is freak out and mention 'guns' to the police and next thing you know, you're a crazy survivalist/terrorist with explosives and there's a SWAT team outside.


              BTW, inert grenades are only legal in California if they've been filled with resin or something like that. If it's empty, you could be charged.
              "Everyone hears what they believe."
              -Goethe

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              • #8
                triggerhappy
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 1121

                Originally posted by cartman
                http://www.komotv.com/news/7544552.html

                SILVERDALE , Wash. - Authorities searching a home in Silverdale Tuesday night uncovered a cache of weaponry and body armor, including at least eight handguns, four rifles, grenades, two shotguns and thousands of ammunition magazines.

                That's according to the search warrant affidavit filed in Kitsap County Superior Court in Port Orchard.

                A 38-year-old man who owns the house was arrested for possession of explosives and booked into the Kitsap County Jail. Brian Kelly Sandberg reportedly lived at the house with his wife and their four young children.

                According to court documents, Sandberg's wife took pictures of the weapons and tipped off police out of fear one of their children may get a hold of the weapons. Authorities served a search warrant on the house Tuesday after she reported the man had loaded pistols and rifles around the house in plain view and not locked up as well as a rifle with a M203 grenade launcher and possible land mines.

                "Amongst the numerous hand-held firearms that he had, there were explosive activating devices, fuses, grenades," said Kitsap County sheriff's spokesman Scott Wilson. "This individual was certainly gearing up with some items that would not normally be found in a civilian community. What concerns us the most is the fact that he had illegal explosives and young children in that house."

                Sandberg made his first appearance in Kitsap County Superior Court Wednesday afternoon. Judge Leonard Costello found enough probable cause to hold Sandberg on a charge of possessing explosives without a license. Bail was set at $100,000.

                Sheriff's deputies and detectives, along with a Bremerton police officer with the State Patrol's bomb squad and agents with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives found most of the weapons in the man's bedroom and living room. It is not known what he planned to do with the weapons.
                Moral of this story: Make sure any girl you marry is an avid shooter, not an idiot.
                Originally posted by UBFRAGD
                When I say people though, I am referring to fellow Americans who have jobs and trucks and guns and consider taking a day or two off work to drive to the boonies and let the lead out. The other 6.something billion of humanity is totally suspect, though.

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                • #9
                  ARRRR-15
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 1207

                  This just in.

                  New images released of grenade and landmine found at his home.


                  This here is a highly explosive fragment grenade.




                  The photo shows a similar landmine being used by our armed forces in Iraq. How he was able to get high explosives such as these is unknown at this time
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                  • #10
                    xrMike
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 7841

                    Originally posted by cartman
                    [url]According to court documents, Sandberg's wife took pictures of the weapons and tipped off police out of fear one of their children may get a hold of the weapons. Authorities served a search warrant on the house Tuesday after she reported the man had loaded pistols and rifles around the house in plain view and not locked up as well as a rifle with a M203 grenade launcher and possible land mines.
                    Sorry guys, but loaded, unlocked weapons lying around a house with young children shows extremely poor (if not criminal) judgement, in my opinion.

                    If the explosives were illegal, and he had landmines and other crap like that, than that's another example of poor/criminal judgement.

                    Just because he had a bunch of guns, and we all love guns, does not excuse this guy.

                    If I was that much of a self-centered d*ck, I'd hope my wife would call the cops on me too (after trying to resolve the obvious safety issues with me first, of course), out of love and concern for our children.

                    I have a feeling the guys in this thread who think this clown was burned, or railroaded, or screwed somehow... well, let's just say, I'm guessing you don't have kids.
                    Last edited by xrMike; 05-18-2007, 9:25 AM.

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                    • #11
                      G-dude
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 89

                      Originally posted by xrMike
                      Sorry guys, but loaded, unlocked weapons lying around a house with young children shows extremely poor (if not criminal) judgement, in my opinion.

                      If the explosives were illegal, and he had landmines and other crap like that, than that's another example of poor/criminal judgement.

                      Just because he had a bunch of guns, and we all love guns, does not excuse this guy.

                      If I was that much of a self-centered d*ck, I'd hope my wife would call the cops on me too (after trying to resolve the obvious safety issues with me first, of course), out of love and concern for our children.

                      I have a feeling the guys in this thread who think this clown was burned, or railroaded, or screwed somehow... well, let's just say, I'm guessing you don't have kids.
                      I 100% agree with you. It sounds like there's a bit of that involved, self-centered d*ck part. He was probably a d*ck and irresponsible.

                      What i'm questioning is, is that really the case? He wasn't charged with endagering his children. I think there are very specific laws in the whole country that deal with loaded firearms and children. Why wasn't he charged with that?

                      "Sandberg's wife took pictures of the weapons and tipped off police out of fear one of their children may get a hold of the weapons. Authorities served a search warrant on the house Tuesday after she reported the man had loaded pistols and rifles around the house in plain view and not locked up"
                      Were they really loaded or did she just freak out about him leaving guns in the open? Was he cleaning them, looking them over unloaded, then left them on his bed walked to the fridge and got a beer? Maybe there was a game on and he got distracted and started watching when his wife finds a rifle on the bed and goes ballistic cose little Darla was playing on the floor next to it?

                      I know sometimes I get lazy and leave a gun I was cleaning in plain view and I go relax and do somethign else for a while. My mom use to freak OUT when sometimes she'd see a gun I was cleaning on top of my desk! You'd think it was gonna bite her. She hated guns. It might as well been a dead body in my room.

                      Of course, I don't have children. Rules change when there's kid envolved. I don't know if I'd even have guns if I had kids. That's why I won't be having kids.
                      "Everyone hears what they believe."
                      -Goethe

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                      • #12
                        triggerhappy
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 1121

                        Originally posted by xrMike
                        Sorry guys, but loaded, unlocked weapons lying around a house with young children shows extremely poor (if not criminal) judgement, in my opinion.

                        If the explosives were illegal, and he had landmines and other crap like that, than that's another example of poor/criminal judgement.

                        Just because he had a bunch of guns, and we all love guns, does not excuse this guy.

                        If I was that much of a self-centered d*ck, I'd hope my wife would call the cops on me too (after trying to resolve the obvious safety issues with me first, of course), out of love and concern for our children.

                        I have a feeling the guys in this thread who think this clown was burned, or railroaded, or screwed somehow... well, let's just say, I'm guessing you don't have kids.
                        I have kids, and they all know what guns are for and how they work. Please remember the tragedy that occurred in Stockton when the family's teenaged daughter had no access to the guns that COULD have saved her sibling's liives from the pyscho stabbing them with his pitchfork. Because her parents were spineless, and acted according to state law, those two kids are dead-no thanks to the gun-owning neighbor who was also to chicken-BLEEP to help.

                        Every child should be made familiar with firearms, and know where and how to get to them in case of emergency.

                        You wouldn't keep a fire extinguisher locked away from them, would you?
                        Originally posted by UBFRAGD
                        When I say people though, I am referring to fellow Americans who have jobs and trucks and guns and consider taking a day or two off work to drive to the boonies and let the lead out. The other 6.something billion of humanity is totally suspect, though.

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                        • #13
                          G-dude
                          Junior Member
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 89

                          Originally posted by triggerhappy
                          I have kids, and they all know what guns are for and how they work. Please remember the tragedy that occurred in Stockton when the family's teenaged daughter had no access to the guns that COULD have saved her sibling's liives from the pyscho stabbing them with his pitchfork. Because her parents were spineless, and acted according to state law, those two kids are dead-no thanks to the gun-owning neighbor who was also to chicken-BLEEP to help.

                          Every child should be made familiar with firearms, and know where and how to get to them in case of emergency.

                          You wouldn't keep a fire extinguisher locked away from them, would you?

                          Great point also!


                          I would keep guns away from really young kids who wouldn't know how to use them. But as soon as they were old enough to know what they're doing(8-10) I'd make sure they know how to load them, unload them safely and teach them never to point them at anyone.

                          No matter how well you lock up your guns, if you have kids, they WILL get to them when you're not around. It's better to teach them how to handle them safely when they do eventually show them to their friends.

                          I think alot of those tragic accidents happen when kids are ignorant about firearms and what they do.
                          "Everyone hears what they believe."
                          -Goethe

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                          • #14
                            Fate
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 9545

                            Originally posted by G-dude
                            I think there are very specific laws in the whole country that deal with loaded firearms and children. Why wasn't he charged with that?
                            I don't know anything about the case, yet the above attitude and mindset really bugs me. Having loaded firearms and children in the same area is not a crime in CA. If they hurt someone, yeah, that can be a crime, but proximity isn't illegal. Nor should it be!

                            Of course, I don't have children. Rules change when there's kid envolved. I don't know if I'd even have guns if I had kids. That's why I won't be having kids.
                            Please refrain from imparting YOUR "sensibilities" onto others, (especially if you don't even have kids). That's what the "antis" do. Think about it before you spout the "endangerment" BS. Heck, letting your kids ride a bike could be deemed endangerment in some people's book these days.

                            Yes, I'm a parent. I would completely trust my 8 year old in the same room with a loaded pistol, rifle or shotgun. I would trust her friends too. Why? Because I constantly TEACH them proper behavior. I also keep an eye on what they're up to. There are also boundaries in my house that my kids do not cross and certain places that are off limits (radical concept nowadays).

                            Guns are no big deal as they get to shoot them. They know what the guns can do and how to use them. Pretty much anything over a .22 they're afraid of due to the noise and recoil (which they've felt)...and that's fine. There's no mystery about pistols, rifles or shotguns and therefore no reason to mess with them...especially when they would bring down a lot of grief upon themselves for doing so.

                            Responsibility in all aspects of life is TAUGHT thru consistency and repetition.

                            Please let PARENTS do OUR job and keep YOUR nose (and the government's too) out of what happens inside our own PRIVATE PROPERTY. Thanks.
                            sigpic "On bended knee is no way to be free." - Eddie Vedder, "Guaranteed"

                            "Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." -Thomas Jefferson
                            , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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                            • #15
                              JPglee1
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 3025

                              Originally posted by G-dude
                              All someone has to do is freak out and mention 'guns' to the police and next thing you know, you're a crazy survivalist/terrorist with explosives and there's a SWAT team outside.

                              .
                              Man I got robbed 2 seperate times a while ago at my old house... BOTH times a gun was involved (before JP got into guns, I DID have my shotty but NO shells the 2nd time) when I called the PD it took them like 2hrs to respond...

                              I called and said " I was just held against my will at gunpoint and robbed"

                              2hrs later the deputy (alone) showed up, took a quickie statment and bounced. Didn't dust for prints (dude touched a lot of stuff) didn't check his boot mark on the front door where he kicked it trying to open it (plain as can be tread print) and also didn't take a cast of the unique tread on his vehicle.


                              To this day they have never done squat about it, and I even know who did it now and they still wont listen.


                              My point was, "man with a gun" calls used to be priority but in my area it seems you're waiting no matter what.

                              We got something like 28 LEO for a population of 200,000 valley-wide...


                              JP

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