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  • n2k
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 1513

    L.A. County sheriff's deputies taking longer to respond to emergencies

    Another reason for "Shall Issue CCW"




    L.A. County sheriff's deputies taking longer to respond to emergencies

    The increased response times come in the wake of department budget cuts, but officials aren't sure of a direct cause and effect or whether there might be other reasons.

    By Robert Faturechi, Los Angeles Times

    September 6, 2010

    Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies are getting to the scenes of 911 emergencies significantly later than they were before budget cuts last March, according to a recent analysis of Sheriff's Department records.

    Last month, response times were a full minute longer compared with their 2009 average.

    Department officials say they can't definitively link the lag to budget cuts, but whatever the cause, they say delays in emergency situations can have a major effect on law enforcement outcomes.

    "Seconds count," said Capt. Mike Parker. "When people call for help, they want us to be there right away. There have been lots of calls where I was really glad I was there when I was, and not five seconds later."

    Since the department moved to cut its budget by $128 million six months ago, response times have consistently been longer than they were last year. The delays affect a massive jurisdiction that includes three-fourths of Los Angeles County and approximately 4 million residents.

    In a recent report to the county Board of Supervisors, Sheriff Lee Baca listed the lag as a possible effect of cuts to overtime — but in an interview, he said other factors, such as a surge in 911 calls, might be at play.

    "It's not something to shrug off," Baca said. "We have to watch it and if our response to emergencies continues extending, we could come to a tipping point. I think we're still at the front end … but we're inching up to it."

    Baca said deputies are often the first on the scene in shootings, stabbings and other situations in which timeliness can save lives.

    The delays have alarmed the county board. To stem the increase in response times, a budget measure by Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich would provide the department an additional $2.6 million to be used specifically for patrols in the county's unincorporated areas.

    Budget cuts have directly resulted in problems elsewhere in the department. For example, the crime lab has a growing backlog in the collection and analysis of fingerprint evidence. That slowdown has resulted in the destruction of evidence in about a tenth of new burglary cases and delays in dozens of homicide investigations.

    In another result of cost cutting, 200 inmates were recently released early from the L.A. County jail system. Time spent in custody for male misdemeanor offenders has dropped from 80% of their sentences to 35%.

    Last year, average response time for 911 calls was 4.9 minutes. The month after budget cuts began, the average climbed to 5.5 minutes and last month rose to almost six minutes. Routine calls for service have also slowed.

    Baca said that despite the lag, violent crime in the department's patrol areas is down. Recent department crime statistics show that the homicide rate in patrol areas countywide was the lowest since 1975.

    Still, Baca said, the response slowdown has to be addressed because deputies often arrive before ambulances and sometimes even transport assault victims to hospitals in their patrol cars.

    "If it's a call for a person injured, typically shot or stabbed, it can be rather critical to lose a minute in response," Baca said. "It concerns me tremendously."

    Parker said the cause of the delays could be the budget cuts or a variety of other factors. He speculated that administrative staff taking on shifts in patrol stations as part of an effort to limit overtime costs may be less familiar with the territory, taking longer to arrive at the scenes of emergencies.

    "It's impossible to have cuts like this and not have impacts," Parker said. "The question is how deep is that impact and is that the only reason."

    robert.faturechi@latimes.com
    Last edited by n2k; 09-06-2010, 11:30 AM.
  • #2
    SoCalCitizen
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 1354

    Yeah.yeah, sounds like more foreplay before another cry for raising taxes. Firefighters tried the same scare tactic. Everybody has to figure out how do become more efficient with less, why should they be any different. Just the reality of the thing is all.

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    • #3
      stphnman20
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2005
      • 6583

      lol.. funny how a pizza delivery is faster then the police!

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      • #4
        rg_1111@yahoo.com
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2003
        • 5681

        Budget cuts will only get worse. At six minutes you have to hope for the best.

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        • #5
          rag9393
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 88

          Less people on the street means longer response time...it is not rocket science people.

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          • #6
            NIB
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 549

            Can we use Baca's own words to help further the CCW cause. I mean we have The Sheriff telling us basically "Sorry, my men can't get to you on time".

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            • #7
              jim293
              Junior Member
              • May 2008
              • 30

              Originally posted by rag9393
              Less people on the street means longer response time...it is not rocket science people.
              No it is not. And it will get worse before it gets better.
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              • #8
                Interloper
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 2680

                Slower by a full minute? And just how is this measured? I'm calling BS. I don't know if it was the City, the PD, or some citizens group that invented this story but I declare FUD.

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                • #9
                  socalblue
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 811

                  Originally posted by Interloper
                  Slower by a full minute? And just how is this measured? I'm calling BS. I don't know if it was the City, the PD, or some citizens group that invented this story but I declare FUD.
                  Then you simply do not have the facts. Call history is tracked down to the second, sorted & reported in numerous ways.

                  LASD is not the only agency with this problem (Try calling Sacramento). Calls for service are up, substantially in some areas as the economy remains poor. Given current budgets (staff cuts & no overtime) there is not much that can be done.

                  Toss in a large influx of criminals being dumped back into society from the jails, plus a substantial increase in undocumented aliens from AZ & the situation is poised to go downhill fast.

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                  • #10
                    Interloper
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 2680

                    Originally posted by socalblue
                    Then you simply do not have the facts. Call history is tracked down to the second, sorted & reported in numerous ways....
                    Yes, I understand that the calls are recorded down to the nanosecond. Who is standing at the curb with a stopwatch when the patrol car pulls up? Hmmmm?
                    This issue of delayed response time has been posted in several other threads from several other cities. I don't doubt it one bit. Some of the stories, like the one in Oakland, actually sound more like a threat than anything else. I'm just saying that I find this "one whole second" business to be fishy.

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                    • #11
                      SkyStorm82
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 1745

                      when a patrol unit gets a call, the cop puts himself enroute on the computer. Many cops will then put themselves on scene as much as half a minute before getting there so they dont have their eyes looking for the button on the computer when they pull up. When they are done with the call and leave, they hit the button for call completed.
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                      • #12
                        n2k
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 1513

                        Now Baca blames it on construction projects:


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                        • #13
                          Bruce
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2183

                          What's the old expression? "When seconds count, the police (sheriffs) are only minutes away." I recall the previous sheriff, Block, telling the public that in the event of a major earthquake, it would be at least 10 days before his department could respond to calls for service. That was after the '89 San Francisco quake. I seriously doubt that things have improved since then.

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                          • #14
                            Rhythm of Life
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2800

                            Lol 5 minute response time. Took them 45 to get to me, I guess getting hit on a bicycle and having the person drive off isn't a big deal these days.
                            Last edited by Rhythm of Life; 09-07-2010, 12:20 PM.
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