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  • mikemaccham
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 577

    buying a mag out of state question

    I'm sure it's been asked on here before but I can't find the thread.
    Since 30 round magazines are so much cheaper than 10 round magazines, can I buy a 30 round mag, and a block in AZ and convert it before I bring it back so that it is a 10/30?
    booted for "thread crapping" on $1 7.62x39 rounds & $2,000 M&P Sports. You can reach me on Ar15 with the same user name.
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    WW2Buff
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1327

    You could do it but risk being asked for identification. While that may or may not be an issue I am not sure. I would just play it safe and buy in state or order rebuild kits on the internet. They tend to be just as cheap. -Ben

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    • #3
      mikemaccham
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 577

      Well I was going to buy them online (I live in Ca) and have them shipped to my parents 2nd house in AZ. I thought you couldn't buy large capacity mags in state, reguardless if you plan to 10/30 them. The blocks are $5 online.
      booted for "thread crapping" on $1 7.62x39 rounds & $2,000 M&P Sports. You can reach me on Ar15 with the same user name.

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      • #4
        Mssr. Eleganté
        Blue Blaze Irregular
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 10401

        You can't order complete large capacity magazines to be delivered in California, but you can order disassembled parts kits from places like 44MAG.com. Then when the parts kits are delivered you can build 10 round mags out of them.
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        "Knowledge is power... For REAL!" - Jack Austin

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        • #5
          mikemaccham
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 577

          So then can I have them delivered to AZ? And Do they come dissaembled? (Promags is the one I was looking at)
          Is it considered a kit if it can come apart?
          booted for "thread crapping" on $1 7.62x39 rounds & $2,000 M&P Sports. You can reach me on Ar15 with the same user name.

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          • #6
            Mssr. Eleganté
            Blue Blaze Irregular
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2005
            • 10401

            Originally posted by mikemaccham
            So then can I have them delivered to AZ? And Do they come dissaembled?
            The disassembled parts kits come disassembled. That's why they call them disassembled parts kits. You can have those shipped to either California or Arizona, but not all vendors sell mags as disassembled parts kits. And not all vendors will ship parts kits for large capacity magazines to California.


            Originally posted by mikemaccham
            Is it considered a kit if it can come apart?
            It's only considered a parts kit if it is already apart...in parts. If it is an assembled magazine that has the ability to come apart then it is considered to be a magazine and not a parts kit.

            Originally posted by mikemaccham
            (Promags is the one I was looking at)
            Seriously?
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            • #7
              stphnman20
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2005
              • 6583

              Just look for one of our online dealers that sell rebuild kits. Once you get them you can convert them into 10rn mags.

              Do NOT assemble them as a hicap mag!

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              • #8
                cannon
                In Memoriam
                • Aug 2008
                • 8589

                Can you buy a 30 rounder in AZ and while still in AZ turn it into a 10/30? Yes.

                Can you buy and ship a 30 round mag parts kit to CA. and assemble it as a 10/30? Yes.
                ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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                • #9
                  CHS
                  Moderator Emeritus
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 11338

                  The modification that brings the 30rd (or 20) to a 10rd magazine (10, 10/20, 10/30, etc) MUST BE PERMANENT to comply with the law, otherwise it is still considered a large-capacity magazine and you become guilty of either importing a large-capacity magazine or manufacturing a large-capacity magazine even if it has a block in it that prevents the magazine from holding more than 10rds.

                  PERMANENT.
                  Please read the Calguns Wiki
                  Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                  --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                  • #10
                    mikemaccham
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 577

                    Last edited by mikemaccham; 08-31-2010, 10:52 AM.
                    booted for "thread crapping" on $1 7.62x39 rounds & $2,000 M&P Sports. You can reach me on Ar15 with the same user name.

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                    • #11
                      SixPointEight
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 3788

                      Originally posted by bdsmchs
                      The modification that brings the 30rd (or 20) to a 10rd magazine (10, 10/20, 10/30, etc) MUST BE PERMANENT to comply with the law, otherwise it is still considered a large-capacity magazine and you become guilty of either importing a large-capacity magazine or manufacturing a large-capacity magazine even if it has a block in it that prevents the magazine from holding more than 10rds.

                      PERMANENT.
                      Have we decided what permanent is yet? I mean, if I have to remove the floor plate to get a block out, and to do so, all the parts fall out the bottom of my mag body. Then I just have a rectangular piece of plastic/metal a spring and a flat piece of plastic. It no longer functions as a magazine without the floor plate.

                      Originally posted by mikemaccham

                      ...yes, seriously,...why?
                      It was being implied that you were asking the same question a million different ways. All with the same answer. USGI, PMAG, ProMag, crapmag it doesn't matter brand. If it's not assembled it's a parts kit. If it is assembled you can't have it shipped to CA.

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                      • #12
                        mikemaccham
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 577

                        oh, ok thanks, I didn't know that they were all the same. As far as I understand it the mag has to be appoxied in, to where trying to take it apart would wreck the mag.
                        Last edited by mikemaccham; 08-31-2010, 11:16 AM.
                        booted for "thread crapping" on $1 7.62x39 rounds & $2,000 M&P Sports. You can reach me on Ar15 with the same user name.

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                        • #13
                          Hoologan
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 1254

                          Why can't you just buy some out of state and bring them back disassembled? They don't have to be modified BEFORE returning the CA.
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                          • #14
                            mikemaccham
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 577

                            Good point!
                            I was just more curious if you can live in california and buy a high capacity mag, not disassembled, and have it shipped to AZ, which acording to the vendor you can.
                            Last edited by mikemaccham; 08-31-2010, 3:07 PM.
                            booted for "thread crapping" on $1 7.62x39 rounds & $2,000 M&P Sports. You can reach me on Ar15 with the same user name.

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                            • #15
                              CHS
                              Moderator Emeritus
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 11338

                              Originally posted by JT1989
                              It was being implied that you were asking the same question a million different ways. All with the same answer. USGI, PMAG, ProMag, crapmag it doesn't matter brand. If it's not assembled it's a parts kit. If it is assembled you can't have it shipped to CA.
                              I think it was more being implied that frankly, Promag's are crap. They're also made from a really thick-gauge steel that makes the magazine unnecessarily heavy.

                              There are much better magazines out there than Promag, for the same money or less even.
                              Please read the Calguns Wiki
                              Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                              --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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