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  • muskater
    Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 174

    Marbles Game Getter

    One of my friends was given a Marbles Game Getter by his grandpa. His grandpa has had it for a very long time. Clearly, this gun isn't California legal. He also does not want to destroy it. Is there anyway to sell it out of state?
    Heres a link to a similar gun: Marbles Game Getter
  • #2
    50BMGBOB
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 1738

    If it is the 18" barrel model, Like mine, then Federally it is legal without a tax stamp. To make it CA legal, remove the grips, drill a hole and install a pin to keep the stock extended. Do not drill thru the stock as it will weaken it but just thru the grip frame so that the pin blocks the stock from folding. and reinstall the grips. Then if you move out of CA you can remove the pin. What keeps the 18" barrel model illegal in CA is the OAL with the stock folded. If it has shorter than 18" barrels, them it is a SBS and needs a tax stamp.
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    • #3
      muskater
      Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 174

      If it is under 18" can it be sold to someone out of state?

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      • #4
        ke6guj
        Moderator
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Nov 2003
        • 23725

        Originally posted by muskater
        One of my friends was given a Marbles Game Getter by his grandpa. His grandpa has had it for a very long time.


        If it was properly registered by the grandpa as an AOW, it needs to be transfered to who ever ends up with it the correct way. It would be an AOW, not an SBS, because it is a firearm with both rifled and smoothbarrels which are between 12" and 18". Because it is an AOW, it is legal in CA, provided it is properly registered to the possessor.

        If it is an AOW (you didn't mention the barrel lenghs), it would a be a crime to sell it to anybody, in any state, if it was not previously registered as an AOW and then transfered to the buyer without an approved Form 4. If it is an illegal AOW, then IIRC, disposing of the barrel would make it legal.

        A legal Game Getter looks like it could be woth a couple grand, so it is important for the executor of the estate to do everything he can to find the registration paperwork for the Game Getter, provided it exists. And even if no paperwork can be found, it may still be registered with BATF. In that case, it is suggested that he contact an attorney who can call BATF with the serial number of the firearm to determine if it is registered. If it is registered, then the executor can file an Form 5 to do a tax-free transfer to the person named in the will, or a $5 Form 4 if it ends up getting sold to someone else. Use of an attorney is important, because of attorney/client privledge if no record of any registration can be found.

        Clearly, this gun isn't California legal. He also does not want to destroy it.
        as mentioned above, if it is a properly registered AOW, it is CA legal.

        Is there anyway to sell it out of state?
        if it is a registered AOW, yes, it can be sold out of state, or kept in CA.

        Originally posted by muskater
        If it is under 18" can it be sold to someone out of state?
        again, if it is a registered AOW, then it can be sold in or out of CA. If it is not registered as an AOW with the feds, it can't be sold as-is to anyone, in any state.
        Last edited by ke6guj; 08-28-2010, 10:25 PM.
        Jack



        Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

        No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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        • #5
          DisgruntledReaper
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 1863

          this situation is where the idiocy of the batf shows thru, I mean it is almost 100 yrs old, not likely to be used in a crime, just collected and maybe shot by the collector ,etc BUT 'ooh it is EVIL and must be destroyed.....'

          This crap makes me sick to hear, cant even pass on a family heirloom anymore! When are they going to ban old family photos due to toxicity?
          Idiots...

          I wish you luck
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          • #6
            muskater
            Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 174

            If he were to break it down and sell it as parts, which parts would be illegal to sell?

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            • #7
              50BMGBOB
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 1738

              Ke6guj got it right, teaches me to post from work without checking my libary at home. I was mainly posting to show that there is hope of keeping it. Mine got passed to me from my grandfather who got it from his hunting partner who didn't want his kids to fight over it. I do not know which parts would be legal but I hope for your friends sake that the barrels are 18" or it is a registered AOW.

              I have never found a serial # on mine (it's a later model with a 22LR/ 410ga 2 1/2") but it shoots great. I wish the factory holster I have was in better shape but I can't use it with the stock pinned anyways.
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