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  • dominic
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 3038

    Ferrofluid bullet

    I have designed a high impact bullet using ferrofluid consisting of nanoscale metallic particles held in a silicone gel matrix. When a magnetic field is applied to ferrofluid it changes from a liquid to a solid. Ferrofluid is the stuff being developed as a flexible body armor. My concept is to build up a layer of this fluid over a magnetic core and encase it in a typical copper alloy jacket. When fired, the magnetic core contacts the fluid where it is activated forming a solid. You can control the density of the fluid to control impact depth, kinetic energy and reduce or completely eliminate ricochet. It will have huge terminal ballistic potential. Since my last design along these lines were confiscated under 35 USC 181, I'm making it public domain. You heard about it here first.
  • #2
    professorhard
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 2328

    Huh?
    God, grant me the serenity
    To accept the things I cannot change;
    The courage to change the things I can;
    And the wisdom to know the difference.

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    • #3
      freonr22
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Dec 2008
      • 12945

      AWESOME! Backstory please
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      Originally posted by dantodd
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      Originally posted by bwiese
      They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
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      Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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      • #4
        dragonbait1a
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2006
        • 596

        IANAL, but if your patent was confiscated because of secrecy rules, maybe you shouldn't talk about it?

        RGB
        Survival and Shooting Blog

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        • #5
          PatriotnMore
          Calguns Addict
          • Nov 2007
          • 7068

          Originally posted by dragonbait1a
          IANAL, but if your patent was confiscated because of secrecy rules, maybe you shouldn't talk about it?

          RGB
          Yes, but as a citizen, and if I were the inventor, I would like clarification and the legality, other than because we can, on how a bullet is of national security.

          I would certainly like to hear the entire story.
          ‎"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions."
          --James Madison
          'Letter to Edmund Pendleton', 1792

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          • #6
            pepsi2451
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2006
            • 1629

            Interesting to say the least. I would love to hear more.

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            • #7
              HiPower823
              Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 345

              IBTL

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              • #8
                dragonbait1a
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 596

                Yes, but as a citizen, and if I were the inventor, I would like clarification and the legality, other than because we can, on how a bullet is of national security.

                I would certainly like to hear the entire story.
                Tin Foil Hat on:

                IF I read the OP correctly, this would be a projectile that would only remain solid until a predetermined time after impact, thus limiting overpenetration etc. If I wanted a projectile for deniable killings this tech would be perfect. No rifling striations, and the projectile itself becomes a fluid and magnet. Since we're discussing small arms, I'd bet that the magnet would be pretty darn small. So someone dies of a "Gunshot" but there is no evidence of a gunshot.

                Tinfoil Hat off.

                OR the government wanted to prevent such "Traceless" shootings, much like they wanted to suppress caseless ammo. So they suppressed the bullet technology as a "state secret" even though they never intended to use it.

                I'm curious too, but I can't in good conscience ask for details or recommend that the OP disclose it. I'd hate to be the reason someone got in trouble for "Disclosing State Secrets."

                RGB
                Survival and Shooting Blog

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                • #9
                  Mssr. Eleganté
                  Blue Blaze Irregular
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 10401

                  Originally posted by professorhard
                  Huh?
                  [arnold voice]Liquid metal.[/arnold voice]

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                  "Knowledge is power... For REAL!" - Jack Austin

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                  • #10
                    dominic
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 3038

                    Originally posted by dragonbait1a
                    Tin Foil Hat on:

                    IF I read the OP correctly, this would be a projectile that would only remain solid until a predetermined time after impact, thus limiting overpenetration etc. If I wanted a projectile for deniable killings this tech would be perfect. No rifling striations, and the projectile itself becomes a fluid and magnet. Since we're discussing small arms, I'd bet that the magnet would be pretty darn small. So someone dies of a "Gunshot" but there is no evidence of a gunshot.

                    OR the government wanted to prevent such "Traceless" shootings, much like they wanted to suppress caseless ammo.

                    RGB
                    The fluid is encased in a standard copper alloy jacket to hold the fluid and magnet. The regular casing will still show rifling striations though there would probably be fragmentation in higher density targets because of the huge terminal ballistic potential. Even then the fluid is very viscous, and the magnetic core and jacket won't somehow disappear upon impact.

                    Originally posted by dragonbait1a

                    I'm curious too, but I can't in good conscience ask for details or recommend that the OP disclose it. I'd hate to be the reason someone got in trouble for "Disclosing State Secrets."

                    RGB
                    I am not even applying for a patent on this one, so what "secret" is being disclosed here?

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                    • #11
                      dragonbait1a
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 596

                      I was only speculating, obviously I didn't know the details...

                      Hey, it's your life. From the pessimist POV I could see legal issues with discussing and publishing information that the government has classified. I'd hate to encourage you and have it lead to legal action against you. I understand that the people who investigate security breaches are humorless.

                      Do what you like, the technology sounds interesting. Assuming that you are free to discuss it, I'd like to hear more.

                      RGB
                      Survival and Shooting Blog

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                      • #12
                        Neuvik
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 1546

                        Good job Dominic, sorry for your loss, and maybe switch up patent lawyers if it seems he didn't fight it as hard as he should have.

                        I'd still let slip the patent number maybe the cycle of bureaucracy is slow and the file is still viewable to the public.

                        They should have helped to make it real instead of stealing it, freaking low lives.

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