Selling a firearm to a CA individual.

[Buffman]

I have an Imbel Stery Variant FAL for sale on another forum. A gentleman has offered to purchase my rifle, and is from CA. This gun is in original configuration (long stg flash hider), with the only US made part being the DSA charging handle and the C.H knob and carry handle(made from titanium). From what I've read, I may not be able to include the magazines, but the gun should be able to ship as long as it has a bullet button/magazine lock thing on it correct?

Also I know this is true in most other states, but do CA FFL's accept shipments from NON FFLs? IS USPS or UPS prefered method to ship? We have a packaging department at work where I send a lot of UPS stuff, or are there forms to fill out when sending long guns?

Thanks




Matt

[strangerdude]

You can ship the magazines, if they are over 10 rounds disassemble them prior to shipping. FFl's over here only receive from FFL's. You do need a magazine lock or you can remove the pistol grip(either or), which allows you to ship without a bullet butting mag lock.

[BigJB]

Thanks for taking the time to figure things out before just deciding "No sales to California", wish more sellers would take your approach. Good luck with your sale.

[Buffman]

thanks for the information.

[Cokebottle]

You can ship the magazines, if they are over 10 rounds disassemble them prior to shipping. FFl's over here only receive from FFL's. You do need a magazine lock or you can remove the pistol grip(either or), which allows you to ship without a bullet butting mag lock.

Flash hider is also an "evil feature" that would require a maglock.

http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

[Honeydos]

It is important to note that the point of disassembly of the magazines is that rebuild kits are legal for sale, transfer, possession etc. and are not to be used in the gun as high caps, unless buyer already has legally (pre Ban) possesed mags. He can use them to build his own 10/30 or similar type of fake high cap that looks like a high cap but ony holds 10 rnds or rebuild his own legally possessed high caps. This is very common here and nothing to be too worried about as long as you remember these are rebuild kits and not magazines you are selling.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

...Also I know this is true in most other states, but do CA FFL's accept shipments from NON FFLs? IS USPS or UPS prefered method to ship? We have a packaging department at work where I send a lot of UPS stuff, or are there forms to fill out when sending long guns?

It's legal for you to ship directly to a California FFL, but some FFLs have a policy of only accepting shipments from other FFLs. If the buyer's FFL won't accept the shipment directly from you than you can either have an FFL ship the gun on your end or you can ask your buyer to find another FFL local to him that will accept the shipment directly from you.

If you ship it from an FFL then that FFL will need to sign up under the CFLC before he can ship the firearm...

http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/cflcoverview.php

If you ship it yourself then you are exempt from the CFLC requirements because you are not an FFL.

You can ship the rifle directly from your work UPS account. There is no additional paperwork required, but UPS requires you to notify your pick up driver that you are shipping a firearm.

[Buffman]

might have to put a bullet button on it. Tried to remove the flash hider today, and it's not budging. Must be all the cosomoline and it's probably never been removed before..

[Cokebottle]

might have to put a bullet button on it. Tried to remove the flash hider today, and it's not budging. Must be all the cosomoline and it's probably never been removed before..

It may have been pinned/welded when it was imported to eliminate the threaded barrel.

[CSACANNONEER]

You can ship the magazines, if they are over 10 rounds disassemble them prior to shipping. FFl's over here only receive from FFL's. You do need a magazine lock or you can remove the pistol grip(either or), which allows you to ship without a bullet butting mag lock.

All wrong. Some FFLS will only accept firearms shipped from other FFLS but, that is not a California thing. Many FFLS in California will accept shipments from non-FFLs. You will have to check with the FFL in question. If the gun has evil features besides a PG, they would need to be removed as well. Or, the gun can be shipped in pieces.

As far as a the magazines go, dissassemble them and ship him the parts. He can modify them to hold 10 rounds, keep them for out of state use or to repair his legally owned +10 round mags.

When it comes to the firearm, it can be taken apart too. If it is not assembled, it is not a firearm. You can ship all the parts in the same box or, just the receiver to the FFL and everything else (including the mag parts) to the buyer. Let they buyer figure out how he wants to configure his rifle. He may not want a BB on it. He might have +10 round mags already and wants to use them. If that is the case, he could easily put a grip wrap on the PG and replace the FH with a MB.

[Buffman]

has verified he just wants the bullet button on it, and button will be arriving within the week, so then I can ship rifle. Thanks once again for all the information guys His FFL accepts non FFL shipments, and have verified he's a legit FFL. Cashier check has cleared, so just waiting on bullet button.

[cannon]

has verified he just wants the bullet button on it, and button will be arriving within the week, so then I can ship rifle. Thanks once again for all the information guys His FFL accepts non FFL shipments, and have verified he's a legit FFL. Cashier check has cleared, so just waiting on bullet button.

Thanks for taking the extra time to sell out here.